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John P,

Glad that you finally got Bochmann's falconer for your collection. wink

It can be a daunting task finding this model in perfect condition as its a complex, delicate and well-detailed study. There are so many nuanced aspects of this sculpture to be aware of, the average seller might not even know that there's a problem or missing part and describe it as being perfect. For those who might want to own one of these falconers, always check those feather tips, straps, plumes and especially the dagger for chips and damage.

A great piece to add to any collecting room.

Best!

Bill

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Hi John...that is indeed a beautiful piece!

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You know the old saying, "when it rains it pours," right..?

I recently posted an early Deco falcon by Hutschenreuther and now this unusual dragon/chimera figurine by the same company, also 1920's vintage. Most often it's fairly easy to research a piece of porcelain, especially those with maker marks and/or a model number. Certainly we all enjoy knowing the artist's name and background, the initial production date and proper title of our figures. This is the second Hutschenreuther example where I drew a complete blank, used every search-method I could think of but, nada ... cry

What I can tell you about the piece is that it's loosely based on the figure of a mythological Japanese beast, a "Kirin." However, in this depiction we can see a heavy European influence in the shape of the chimera, more of a dragon that westerners are familiar with. A small delicate unit at less than 5 3/4 inches tall, it has a good amount of detail and the pose seems to suspend the monster in mid-air. The clean, hard lines of the tiered column set up a fine, unassuming base for the powerful flow and line of the scale-covered, horned beastie. For those who might remember, it could be a creature right out of an early Ray Harryhausen movie ... wink

Something out of the ordinary which I hope you'll enjoy.

Best!

Bill

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Bill:

Keep them coming... I love 'em all.

John


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Will see what I can do mate! grin grin grin

W~

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Yes Bill, you do come up with interesting items, plus the knowledge to back them up!

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To celebrate going back to work after 53 weeks of unemployment, I treated myself to something for the collection ... grin

A Meissen Art Deco barn owl by Max Esser, introduced shortly after World War I, 1921. Strange but magnificent birds.

Best!

Bill

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Love the talons on that work Bill.

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Bill,

I've seen that porcelain dragon before, but can't remember where or who produced it. I know it's not, but the kid in me sees Puff the magic dragon. Meissen isn't cheap and that Owl is a real nice one! Congratulation on finding them and a new job. Best!

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Very nice! Dragon is very detailed! A looker!

The Talons are so real looking!

Good taste my friend!

Great pickup!

pvon

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Where DO you find these treasures!?

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Dear Friends,

Thanks to all of you kind people for the positive comments, always appreciated! wink

Mikee - always thought that was a great tune by Peter, Paul and Mary. they surely don't write 'em like that anymore.

Glad I grew up at a time when there was so much musical diversity out there to be enjoyed. Magic dragons, Purple Haze -soul, folk, oldies, blues, rock n' roll, fusion and classical music, without a doubt something for everyone.

Much like music, our hobby is built around many divergent interests, too. When I started collecting helmets and daggers I'd never dreamed about collecting German porcelain animals, not in a million years! I always admired the refined clean looks of Allach porcelain but never considered owning any of them. Even after I ended up with a couple of pieces, I'd pass them on to collect my hunting and forestry daggers, heh..

Somewhere along the line my interests grew in 20th century German sculptors, especially pre-1945, Tierbildhauer, or animal sculptors. The more I read on the subject, the more appealing and interesting the whole thing became. Many of the best German animal artists were active in the late 19th and early twentieth centuries, during the reign of the Kaisers. After WWI some of those men and women went on to be employed by, and/or, by the Nazis, which was only logical under the circumstances. Even though the brownshirts thoroughly screened and evaluated these artists, I doubt that very many became ardent Nazi supporters or cared much for politics, rather, they seemed to persue their own interests, strictly art for art's sake.

No matter what you collect, enjoy that to the fullest - share info with your friends if you can, always try to help, be courteous and be as tough and relentless as a pitbull if you make a mistake ... we've all fell and stumbled. The computer age has made collecting so much easier for those with just a modicum of internet-skill, it's very easy to find good things and get excellent help these days. It will assuredly help keep the faux pas' to a bare minimum and more rubles in your pocket, to collect more, that is ... grin

Wishing everyone the very best in collecting !

Bill

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Bill,

Once again...stunning!!!

You never cease to amaze me with your porcelain!!! It seems to me, the more odd it is, the more beautiful!!!

Congrats on your new addition and thanks for your encouraging words of wisdom!!!

Rich


In memory of my loyal companion Nitro.
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... speaking of pitbulls! grin

Rich, hope all's well and getting better all the time. Have you had some time off from your busy schedule to get in some collecting? You always turn up the nicest edged weapons when you're out and about ... wink

Glad you enjoyed my latest batch of goodies and thanks for your kind thoughts.

Best wishes!

B~

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Dear Friends,

Thanks to all of you kind people for the positive comments, always appreciated! wink

Mikee - always thought that was a great tune by Peter, Paul and Mary. they surely don't write 'em like that anymore.

Glad I grew up at a time when there was so much musical diversity out there to be enjoyed. Magic dragons, Purple Haze -soul, folk, oldies, blues, rock n' roll, fusion and classical music, without a doubt something for everyone.

Much like music, our hobby is built around many divergent interests, too. When I started collecting helmets and daggers I'd never dreamed about collecting German porcelain animals, not in a million years! I always admired the refined clean looks of Allach porcelain but never considered owning any of them. Even after I ended up with a couple of pieces, I'd pass them on to collect my hunting and forestry daggers, heh..

Somewhere along the line my interests grew in 20th century German sculptors, especially pre-1945, Tierbildhauer, or animal sculptors. The more I read on the subject, the more appealing and interesting the whole thing became. Many of the best German animal artists were active in the late 19th and early twentieth centuries, during the reign of the Kaisers. After WWI some of those men and women went on to be employed by, and/or, by the Nazis, which was only logical under the circumstances. Even though the brownshirts thoroughly screened and evaluated these artists, I doubt that very many became ardent Nazi supporters or cared much for politics, rather, they seemed to persue their own interests, strictly art for art's sake.

No matter what you collect, enjoy that to the fullest - share info with your friends if you can, always try to help, be courteous and be as tough and relentless as a pitbull if you make a mistake ... we've all fell and stumbled. The computer age has made collecting so much easier for those with just a modicum of internet-skill, it's very easy to find good things and get excellent help these days. It will assuredly help keep the faux pas' to a bare minimum and more rubles in your pocket, to collect more, that is ... grin

Wishing everyone the very best in collecting !

Bill


Words spoken from the heart. Thank you, for all that you are and all that you do!

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I just posted this new Allach Eichhorn on another thread, but wanted to show it here as well.

Allach Model 68 came in white and in colour. I have been searching for the coloured version for a while and I thank Kris Lindblom for pointing this out to me on Deutsche E-bay.

John

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Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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John,

Very nice little squirrels and great to see a side by side comparison. Thanks for the treat as always. Best!

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John Z,

They say patience is a virtue, well, it's paid off again. wink

It's always a delight to see Professor Kärner's outstanding animal depictions, especially those rarer models he produced for the Allach company. Even better is getting to see the work in both plain white and painted. You and Tristan have the right idea when it comes to collecting these, one of each, please.

... truly a case of a pair beating a straight royal-flush !!!

Best!

W~

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Nice one, John...or should I say 'nice two'!

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At last I've found a Nymphenburg Pasing Vase, which along with another Rosenthal vase, is even nicer than the Allach range (well, at least than most of them).
This is dated 1st April 1938 and celebrates the incorporation of the area of Pasing into Munich proper. The vase has the Munich coat of arms, but on the Rosenthal vase this is picked out in gold.
The photo shows my three non-Allach vases in good use!

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Tristan,

Where in the heck did you find that historical vase? Now that's a nice find and a beautiful display as well! Wow!

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Hello gents,

It's been a while since I've checked in because once again I did my annual Lenten abstention from purchasing items from ebay.

I'm glad to see so many wonderful pieces being shared. The quality, beauty, and rarity of what this crowd turns up never ceases to amaze me.

Bill, the dragon and the stylized owl are top notch. So glad to hear you're working again, I've really enjoyed reading your message about how you evolved into collecting porcelain. I've always considered you a great role model in the hobby, and am thankful for all your knowledge and support that you've shared.

I haven't gotten anything new for the collection lately, but I am eyeballing a piece and thinking about pulling the trigger, so to speak. If I spring for it, though, rest assured I'll share it here.

Regards,
T.

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Gentlemen,

A small, plump bird eyeing up a frog, sculpted by Alexander Struck. The bird is a European Robin, or Rotkelchen in German.
This example is made of Böttger Steinzeug (stoneware) for Meissen, first offered in 1939, and could also be purchased in pure white. The Allach company also produced a Rotkelchen around the same time, which was modeled by Wilhelm Krieger.

Early in this thread we saw a pair of Meissen Art Deco squirrels that I mistakenly identified as being the work of Max Esser. Recently I got a copy of an old Meissen catalog that lists many of the Böttger Steinzeug models and found that Herr Struck was actually the artist responsible for the squirrels, not Esser. Please accept my humble apologies, as I stand corrected.

Tristan - great to see that you're not afraid to use these vessels as intended, well done my friend! I've also seen some exceptional vases by KPM that could easily be mistaken for Allach products. You have a keen eye for quality, always a pleasure to see what you'll turn up next.

Tiberius - looking forward to your next find. wink

Hope you'll enjoy our fine feathered friend ...

Best!

Bill Warda

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Bill...Cute little chap!...I'm seeing a few of these in my back garden now summer (!)has arrived.
Also very prescient of you as just yesterday I got a 1937 Rosenthal Roaring Stag but it needs a little TLC to its antlers so once it is back from the restorer I'll post some images.
In the meantime here are a couple of my birds.

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Dynamic Duo ...

Tristan,

A first rate pair of Allach birds by Adolf Röhring, the Grünfink and Amsel. (Green Finch & Blackbird) Great snapshot poses to both models, the finch settling on a branch and the blackbird taking a quick look-round before enjoying a snack of lucious strawberries. Fabulous detail to the finch's open wings, every feather painstakingly portrayed. The overall balance is quite natural and lifelike as the animal applies it "air-brakes" for a perfect three-point landing. The Amsel sculpture reminds me of our local catbirds which dance and display for a mate in this same stance, tails high up in the air. These native catbirds have the uncanny ability to mimic other birds songs and answer their calls in their own tongue. Many a disappointed suitor shows up only to find this little rascal performing his deceptive impersonation. grin

Thanks for sharing your lovely birds with us, can't wait to see your Hirsch.

Best!

Bill

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Thx Bill...forgot this guy - Seidenschwanz by Krieger.

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"Ehr, Lehr, Wehr,
Kein Mann braucht mehr."

"Honor, Education, Defense,
No Man Needs More."

A German saying for every good military man to heed. A large, colorful porcelain tile that measures app. 8 x 13 inches. The decoration is a fine transfer under glaze in excellent condition. The markings on the reverse indicate early 20th century manufacture.

I thought this would make a good birthday gift for a dear old friend, what do you think?

Tristan - that's one of my favorite Allach birds, a beautiful Bohemian Waxwing. Thanks for posting.

Best regards and good collecting!

Bill

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A lucky friend indeed!

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Just received an example of the Third Prize in the 1940 Munich Flower Competition.
This is the smaller of the three available prizes - 1st prize being the coloured version; 2nd being the same size, but in white, and the third being a smaller white example.

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Tristan,

Always a pleasure seeing your latest finds!

The small third prize example was the first piece of Allach that I ever purchased, back in the mid-1980's. It was hardly noticeable in amongst all the cheesy do-dads, Flintstone jelly glasses and trite nik-naks. I remember feeling like the luckiest guy on the planet. grin

I still get that good feeling every time I find a nice piece of porcelain like these two early deer models by Rosenthal. The one on the left by Theo Kärner, marked with the 1928 logo and the one on the right I believe by Fritz Heidenreich with a rare 1945 stamp.

As always, a kind thank you to all who participate and comment.

Best regards and good collecting !! wink

BW~

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A nice addition to your collection, both of these are as good as any Allach piece out there,this thread is a must for me everyday just to see what has been added.

Gary

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Guys!

never have owned any allach but everything you fella's show is
impressive and I am amazed it survived!

I can see how you guys get hooked on beauty and artistic
value!

Thanks for sharing and allowing a glimpse into areas some of us might never know!

Bill
I am glad you share and give background for us to understand!
PVON

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Gary & Paul,

Thanks for your positive comments, it's always a pleasure sharing with you gentlemen ... wink

Best!

Bill

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Hear hear!!
This is my new desk-top!

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My photographic skills aren't up to much. Here's a better attempt.

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I look at this thread everyday and enjoy the beautiful works of art shared here, superb picture making. I had a small porcelain collection at one time, most of which has gone to time. I kept prints of more important items; here are scans of both models of the SS-Standard Bearer I once owned. The officer model was damaged, had lost the finial from the staff and the dagger handle was re-afixed. Still, it was impressive to be able to display them together. Apologies for the poor images attached, made long before digital was around.

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Amazing to have these two pieces together! You must have replaced them with some really serious stuff...edged weapons maybe?

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Bill,
I agree with Gary, you just can't go wrong with the likes of Rosenthal. They both look real nice in white as well. I must be looking in all the wrong places because I haven't picked up anything in a while, so it's a real joy when you and the others post your latest finds.

Tristan,
As always thanks for sharing your treasures. A great piece one could only wish for.

Barry,
You must of had some collection. If you have more pictures, would enjoy seeing them. Thanks.

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Thx Mikee. But here's a piece one could DIE for...an Allach Raven. it went today in an auction for E14,000! I only hope the lucky buyer is a member here and we can see some images of this fantastic piece.

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