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#257497 01/09/2012 09:18 AM
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Hello all,
What do you think this dagger? I'm interested in it(want to buy), but first wanted the opinion of the experts

PS:photo is of poor quality,but is all that I have

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No opinion frown

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Rare dagger for sure,, the photos are not the greatest but I would like to see a close up of the tang nut if possible. regards Larry


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Originally Posted By: Siegfried B
Rare dagger for sure,, the photos are not the greatest but I would like to see a close up of the tang nut if possible. regards Larry

I asked the seller for better photos, but ... don't have yet sleep

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Looks fine to me!
I like it!


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The grip might be a replacement or there was some shrinkage of the wood. Otherwise it is 100% OK.

The scabbard annodising is is great condition!

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Herman


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Finally, better photos from seller... what opinion now ?

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I like it. I see no problems with the grip fit. Just one small chip.

I would buy it for a reasonable amount.

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I don't very like this areas. The roundel isn't on center frown
or it isn't problem ?

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Its fine


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Has the blade been sharpened?

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Thanks for the better photos,, looks great!! The anodized scabbard is in great condition! The coppery type is a favorite of mine. Congrats again on a rare find! Larry


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Looks good to me. Sometimes it's hard to detect a grip change. If you are one who is willing to "take down" the dagger carefully, usually you can detect a grip change. The grip holes tend to be neat and precise. Original grips tend to just "fall into place" when reassembling the parts. This means the tang is centered on the upper grip hole without having to jiggle the grip around. The lower cross guard will fit snugly to the blade, etc

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I can confirm now that the grip is fine: typical E. Schrick!

Here is another one by this maker:

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Looks good to me. Wood dries and shrinks and not all daggers were 100% perfect.

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WOW!! Nice Hermann,, that is sweet!! Those crossguards are TIGHT!!
And Barzda dont worry about the roundel not being centered,, depending on the maker it can be placed higher or lower,, yours is just fine.

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It should be noted also that these daggers were made using traditional methods, giving rise to these small imperfections.

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With so many makers and with the passing of time,there are always going to be minor areas of concern. Shrinkage in the wood is one of the more common seen, what I look for is a balance shrinkage, that is to say not all at the top or to one side. If wood loses moisture it will contract and it is almost impossible to reverse without causeing splits or worse. There are also times when grips have needed repair or replacing. The sheer numbers in circulation would guarantee it.

Modern homes and central heating do not help.

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I agree that wood shrinks over time, fittings that were once perfect (or maybe not once perfect) will be more deformed after decades no matter what storage conditions have occurred. Just think of wet clay or sediment shrinking when the moisture dries up, there is a change in volume.


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I'm joining the discussion quite late, so don't know if you bought the dagger or not, but I do not see any problems with this very nice dagger. I wouldn't mind to have one like this in my collection. You don't need to be worried about details of the grip you pointed out.
Those daggers weren't produced with a use of hi-tec computer controlled laser cutter. Bit of imperfection here and there is a normal thing. The most important is to be able to tell the difference between original imperfection and post war alteration, and this ability comes with experience.

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Hi fine dagger...with SA (and SS grips) when shrinkage occurs it is important to check that the angles of the grip perfectly match the contours of the fitting/crossguards (as is the case here) Most often replaced grips will not pass this visual test. There might be two or even 3 contours that do but seldom do all match on replaced grips. This dagger is fine.....nice score on a very difficult maker to locate in any condition, Ryan


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