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Again a new come-in these days. Ring in top-condition. Brass, some silvering glas-stone. Ring is 5 piece. Band, shoulders, cartouche and stone. Ring-diamater about 19 mm. Stone about 12 x 16 mm. Enjoy it:
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Rare ring,,Some work there! Years ago I'm pretty sure I've seen this in thin brass.. great catch!
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killroy, odal,
Very nice rings you have. Thank you for showing them! Best!
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Thanks again, Mikee! I had a little luck to get the last one. I hope you have soon some luck too an you can us show your come-in
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Some days ago in an ebay-auction. Now in my little collection. A pattern we still haven`t here. Brass with some silverring and some black paint.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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I wanted that ring but it past my budget, lovely catch!
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Thanks svenga! Yes, an real nice ring and not really cheap. But also a rather rare ring and so i think too the selling price wasn`t to expensive. Its the only pattern of westwall rings i know that uses the german type for the inscription. I also think some day you have reached the point that you have to look for the rarer rings to try to complete your collection.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Really a rare ring Odal. My compliments.
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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odal,
Another great catch for your collection!You have a good eye! That's the first time I've seen Westwall spelled with a German "s" as well.
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YES, one of the more rarer of WestWall/Front rings.. Great catch!
Did this have a box?,,do you think it is the original box for it?
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Hi G.! Very good to see you back again! Yes, the ring came in with a nice old box.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Here two pics of the box. For sure a period box and possible for this ring
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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and here a link to a film fitting to this nice topic. A youtube film about the "WESTWALL" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gf9X8GW-rY&feature=related
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Odal, thank you! It is a pleasure to see this interesting film about the Westwall.
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Here not a ring, but a little Westwall box. Glad to have it in the collection.
Yes, a bit rusty inside . At this moment the rust is covered with Ballistol oil....sure it will be look better.
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Thanks Benten!
Real nice little Westwall-item. A for sure very small box. A box for what? What do you think? If i remeber right i have seen such a box yet somewhere here in this forum.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Our forum member BadBob also has a Westwall box in clear glas transparent as I remember well.
As a touristic item it had a general purpose: I can imagine, it was to put in it a little photo, or small letter. Maybe they brought/send it home by mail as a greeting present from the Westwall....
Just thoughts.
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In later years these style boxes have often contained rosemary beads and had a picture of the current pope as a tourist item, i have also seen one with a picture of stalin.
Very envious with your ring Odal, even more now i realised i had unknown funding i could of used at the time!
Keep it safe!
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It seems so that some answers get lost!!!!
Nevertheless. Here a come in from these days. Ring is brass with heavy silverplating and has an "E *"? mark. Maybe too and not so pefect stamped "F *". I think this is one of the rather rare originals of an often faked pattern. All opinions are welcome.
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Hi Odal, just a remark.
What I see, is a difference in quality. The leaves aside are rather smooth and at the front, the pebbles and certainly the text are crisp.
Let´s wait for more opinions to this nice ring here. I give it a good chance.
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Hi Odal,
I like the ring, I own the silver variant.
Cheers Bernhard
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Thanks friends!
I know, Bernhard. It would be nice to see your ring here too.
Benten, i you what you mean and i think the origin for the little worser details on the sides is the real heavy plating.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Odal,, that IS a rare original of an often faked pattern. The fakes are very good, but not this good So far nothing on the maker stamp but maybe in the future.
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Look at this little box, it was on an auction, unfortunatelly no additionall info.
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Oh yes, similar to the "Westwall"-boxes. I think religious
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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hard to picture
brass ringband and glas-front
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Looks like the same stone as in my ring on page 33. Yes, very hard toke good pics from this pattern :-(, but a very hard to get ring also. Congrats!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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A super topic!
Here is a 'West Front' ring.. A very rare pattern. Brass with a silver wash..
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Wow! Never seen until now. And now a new one on my wish list! Thanks for showing us and i hope its yours!
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Here a new one in my collection. Came in today its zinc, has a plating and well made seam. Here some quick made pics
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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never seen pattern - but looks cool!
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Thanks, B.! And for sure rare!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Interesting ring Odal!
I also haven't seen this ring before.
For me, for now, more questions then answers; Is the number something military/departement( Abteilung)? Does the name Westfront mean ,not only the Westwall, but also the Atlantic wall?
Benten
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Benten i think the number inside is the number of unit of the former owner. Sometimes we se such personel markings in rings. From the year 1939 i think it is primordial a westwall souvenir ring.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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I have the same but instead of WestFront it has a Infantry unit on it! I've seen 10 or so of these,,,always zinc,,about half had that same unit [?] marking in band.. I'll try and get a photo.
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I hope you get the pics - would be very interesting
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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I've had this ring since the mid 1970s.. Usually don't show it to keep the counterfeiters away.. Guess we'll see how hard they really do look here eventually!
Same cartouche,,different band,,diff. inside.. My Uncle said it was a 'flat silver' finish when he got it wartime,,probably had a silver wash....
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