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Don,

Great to see a matched pair like this, the finish and condition of both pieces is super. No doubt due to them being cased. smile

A very Merry Christmas to you, Joe and all the other collectors who contribute to this forum, and a Happy New Year too! wink

Best!

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Don and Bill, thank you much. smile

Here are my two ARBEITS DANK pins.
First the red enamel version with silver metal.

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The orange enamel version with gilt metal.

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Another couple of fine pieces Joe.

I don't think that collectors realise just how tough it is to find these ones with full maker marks, especially the gold version!

Thanks for showing them.

Happy New Year
Don


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Joe,

Your camera has made a big difference ... cool

Nice to see that colorful enamel 'brightwork' as it's meant to be seen, lovely!

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Bill, I must apologise, I missed your comments on the previous badges I posted & neglected to thank you, sorry....

Here is something else a little unusual, a DRL "Olympia-Siegernadel" in bronze (at least I believe it to be the bronze, under a loupe there does seem to be some traces of gold?). Awarded by the DRL to those (Germans) who won a bronze medal in an event at the 1936 Olympics. It also came in Silver & Gold.

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Don

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Interesting piece Don. I would not think many survived. First one I've ever seen.

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Der Stahlhelm. without Iron cross.

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Nice one Joe. It's good to see an example with a maker mark smile

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Don


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Whilst we are on the subject of verterans, here's one you may not have seen:

Vereinigung Deutscher Frontkämpfer-Verbände (VDFV) which seems to be the association of veteran associations..... I haven't had time to find anything out about them yet.

Notice though, the simularity between this & the early DRK pin?

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Don

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Hi Don, definitely a first time see for me. Good looking association pin.

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Here is a HJ membership cap badge.

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May as well add this one too.
Goldenes HJ Ehrenzeichen.

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A couple of beauties there Joe.

I especially like the transitional RZM cap badge. Is it a 39? I can't quite see on my screen.

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Don


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Hi Don, it appears to be a 39.

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Time to dig another out of the box & bring the thread to the top again... smile

Don't know anything about this one, seems to be some sort of honour pin for Stadt Homburg. Nice badge anyhow....

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Joe,

Great HJ diamonds. Has anyone ever posted a group shot of an entire set of variants here at the forum? That'd be cool to see ... cool

Don,

Your vet's pin is a first for me, too, it has to be the sharpest-looking Kriegerverein design I've ever seen. I agree there's a striking similarity to the DRK logo, but I like this one much better. It's got a little something for everyone to enjoy - an Iron Cross, a swastika and a good-looking eagle ... who could ask for more? grin

I'm glad you dove into your goodie-box for this latest pin, it's something extra special. Really neat how it's marked on the reverse, "Honor Pin, the City of Homburg."
I took a brief 'look-round' but couldn't find anything related to the illustration on the front that would give us a clue about the inscription,
"Community (spiritual) Will Becomes Deed ..." (?) This little gem reflects top-quality through and through.

Thanks guys!

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I agree very nice pins all. I've been to Homburg before, I'm not sure but I think this could be or what is now the Waldstadion. I mean it doesn't look like that anymore, sort of anyway. That's my best guess. Thanks


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Mikee, I think you are correct.

http://www.footballfans.eu/stadium/2472/Waldstadion-Homburg#
Click on - Stadium details.

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If this is what it is, here is a little more info. Sorry for the short version and quick translation with some cleaning up.

The forest stadium Homburg, used for soccer and track-and-field events in Homburg (Saar) with a spectator capacity of 21.813 places, of it 1,767 seats. Main user of the stadium is the FC 08 Homburg.

The Hauptkampfbahn stadium 1937-1974 was inaugurated on 14 and 15 August 1937 with a circle sport celebration, within whose framework a soccer game match was played against SSV Jahn Regensburg, as a so-called main combat course. The combat course should become the center of a large-scale athletic ground, whose implementation and goal was made possible by the Homburger at that time mayor and NSDAP Kreisleiter Jakob Knissel. The architect is Ludwigshafener Willy Schwilling. In 1974 the stadium was renamed Waldstadion Homburg. Structural alterations took place in 1986 and 1989.

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Thank you once again Bill for you kind words, they are nice pieces & tough to find.

Mikee, I think that you have hit the nail on the head! Thank you. There is definitely a forest in the background on the badge.

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Don


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Thought I'd wake this old thread up again.

I don't think that I've posted this one before, please forgive me if I have.....

The honour pin of the Deutsches Jugendherbergswerk. You would not believe just how tiny the H.J. diamond is on this thing!!!

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Don,

Nice pin! That has to be the smallest HJ diamond ever found!Nice find!
I have a ski pin,but not sure if it's been shown here before.

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Here's my ski pin, sorry if it's been shown before and hopefully it's a good one? Thanks guys!

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Hi Mike

That's a nice piece, but I must say that they worry the hell out of me. There are a lot of these things about over here in Europe & all in mint condition. I hope that it's just that a large number have been found, or that like normal tinnies, many were made & still out there but check this site out http://www.germaniateutonia-militaria.de...0786&Page=3 & there are a couple more on his next page as well....

As I said they do look nice but they also worry me.

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Hi Don,

Thanks for the help as always! I had no idea what these were going for. I found mine for near nothing so I guess I'll hold onto it until we find out more. Much appreciated!

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Fellow enthusiasts,

Here's something a little bit out of the ordinary, an "honor-member's" lapel pin from the St. Sebastion shooting club, Düsseldorf - Bilk. This was recently found by family members in Germany and belongs to an elaborate grouping of of shooting medals that I bought from them several years ago. We've stayed in touch and when they just turned this up they asked if I'd like to have it, to go with the other items that belonged Herr Josef Wiegel - a small, roundish owl of a man who sported a 'Hitler-moustache.' Naturally I jumped at the opportunity.

The heavy, oversize pin dates to about 1934 - 1935, was hand-made and marked by E. Bayer. A 'no-frills-sans-sawastika' design, but definitely of TR origin. Even the typeface they chose is plain and simple and has that Bauhaus, Art Deco look to it.

Don't know if any of you would remember the photos of the original medals that were posted? Super-sized, complex and very decorative compared to most ... they must've been "pre-crash" days I think..?

To the rest of you ladies and gents who normally will add something interesting, or even give words of encouragement to all of these archives, thanks mates!

For those of you who will be attending the upcoming gala in Pittsburgh, I wish all of you the best of luck with your collections. Have some fun out there ... grin wink

Best!

Bill Warda

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Willi, TA Willi, Wilhelm, Bill, Billy the kid, Billy Fisch, Doodlesack, Sackaffe, Wildschwein, mrwilli and Ratso.

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A very nice piece Bill, & very unusual indeed. I love the "HANDARBEIT" on the reverse...

Thanks for sharing it.
Don


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Very nice..


But, 'ratso'????

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Thought I might add this organisation to this thread, whilst it is not a pin or badge I think it well worth adding. First I have seen of this organisation.

Gary

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Gary,

Splendid!

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Very nice indeed. It's not often that we see Steno items, a very underated organisation....

Thanks for sharing it.

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I promised Joe (derjager) several years ago to do a thread on Steno pieces. I haven't been ready to do it yet as there are still some things that I am trying to research.

Here is an example; I'm still not sure whether these are the only dates that are available (1936-1938). I know that they existed as I have period evidence of them. Until recently I thought that they were only found in gold, but Hüsken shows a silver grade in his latest catalogue, so was there a bronze as well? The next question is what were they awarded for? I've seen a certificate for one, but it wasn't clear what had to be done to receive it..... Questions, questions questions....

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Those are interesting Don. Have you found out any more about them?

Did the stenographers have to requalify every year?

I just scrolled through a couple of German shorthand systems, my hats off to anyone that could master them. Quite intricate.

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Don,

Were you able to find these four as a group or did you pick them up over time? Absolutely first class items. Looking forward to whatever else you can tell us about the stenographers.

Many thanks!

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Thank you Gentlemen.

I'm afraid that I still have not been able to find anything else on these yet Joe. Very frustrating.

Bill,
I picked them up from various places over the years. Interestingly, only one of them from a dealer, the others were all from private individuals/collectors.

Cheers
Don


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Ok…. where have I been?
This is the most amazing thread that I have read in at least 5 years.
I guess I need to poke my head out form the "daggers only" section now and again.

Don - Your stuff is AMAZING!!!

I did want to make a comment on 1 piece which you posted on page 34 from Homberg which reads:

"Aus Gemeinschaftswille es wurde tat"

I would translate to:
"Through united will, it was done." or
"Through united will, it was achieved/accomplished."

I am not a native speaker, but live in Germany now, I believe this is a more accurate translation and I hope that it is helpful.


In any case, what a FANTASTIC thread!!!
I have always been attracted to daggers because of the variety of organizations, but these badges and pins are 1000 fold more diverse than daggers.

Great stuff!!!!!

99.9% I have never seen before.

Thanks so much for the contributions.

Dagger people are watching! laugh

Good hunting,
Johnny

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Johnny V.,

Great to see you're enjoying this lovely thread, too.

Don and Joe have gone to great lengths making this a very enjoyable and interesting spot.

You wouldn't believe some of the fantastic goodies that were posted prior to the "great-crash," some years ago ... cry grin

Still lots of super rare pins and insignia left and steadily growing again for 'dagger guys,' and all of us, to check out ... I always look forward to more when I visit here. wink

Best to all !

Bill

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