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#244115 - 04/29/11 11:34 PM Re: Pack Oval C31 Single [Re: JohnZ]
JohnZ Offline



Registered: 03/29/06
Posts: 5222
Loc: Calgary
The Pack C31 Oval etch is real purty.

This one is on a short blade, spanner bolted, single etched with a small Pack TM.


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Obverse.JPG (209 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (209 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (208 downloads)
Reverse Hilt.JPG (209 downloads)
TM.JPG (207 downloads)
Etch.JPG (207 downloads)
Oval C31.JPG (208 downloads)

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#244116 - 04/29/11 11:40 PM Re: Pack Oval C31 Double [Re: JohnZ]
JohnZ Offline



Registered: 03/29/06
Posts: 5222
Loc: Calgary
I also have a double etched version of the C31 Oval.

This is pictured in Wayne's book on page 66.

The one pictured and the one I have are the same. It came from Ron Weinand as well.

And, it is on a long blade, is double etched, stag gripped, spanner bolted with the small Pack TM.

The reverse dedication is to a 'Willy Langenberg' and is gold filled.

When you compare the two C31 Ovals, see the difference? The double etched piece does not have the C31 markings that the single etched one does.

Neat stuff.


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Obverse.JPG (204 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (206 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (206 downloads)
Reverse Hilt.JPG (206 downloads)
TM.JPG (206 downloads)
Obverse Etch.JPG (206 downloads)
Oval C31.JPG (204 downloads)
Reverse Etch 1.JPG (205 downloads)
Two Etches.JPG (205 downloads)

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#244117 - 04/29/11 11:43 PM Re: Pack Oval Pioniere [Re: JohnZ]
JohnZ Offline



Registered: 03/29/06
Posts: 5222
Loc: Calgary
The Oval Pioniere etch is seen on page 158 and the version I am showing here was purchased from Wayne.

It is a long, single etched, spanner bolted variety with the large Siegfried TM.


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Obverse.JPG (203 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (203 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (204 downloads)
Reverse Hilt.JPG (203 downloads)
TM.JPG (202 downloads)
Etch.JPG (203 downloads)
Oval Pioniere.JPG (202 downloads)

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#244119 - 04/29/11 11:49 PM Re: Pack Oval Pioniere Double Etch [Re: JohnZ]
JohnZ Offline



Registered: 03/29/06
Posts: 5222
Loc: Calgary
The very last, for now, etch that I have to show is a double etched Oval Pioniere.

This is a very interesting etch. On the obverse, it has the Neutral No 11 etch dedication to Inf Regt 3. On the reverse, it has the Oval Pioniere unit by itself.

It is a long blade, double etched, Pioniere hilted, riveted item with the large Siegfried TM.

I picked this little baby up from my favourite Canadian dealer, Paul Hogle.

That's it, boys and girls. Until I get more Packs, I have shown you everything that I have.

I hope that you are enjoying this as much as I have enjoyed showing them to you.

Keep well, my friends,

John


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Obverse.JPG (201 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (201 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (201 downloads)
Reverse Hilt.JPG (203 downloads)
TM.JPG (201 downloads)
Obverse Etch Neutral.JPG (203 downloads)
Obverse Etch Front.JPG (200 downloads)
Obverse Etch Rear.JPG (200 downloads)
Reverse Etch Oval Pioniere.JPG (200 downloads)
Two Etches 1.JPG (200 downloads)

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#244135 - 04/30/11 09:08 AM Re: Pack Oval C31 Fliegerhorst Stade [Re: JohnZ]
JohnZ Offline



Registered: 03/29/06
Posts: 5222
Loc: Calgary
I owned this etch for a short while last year.

Originally from Paul Hogle, it is a long blade, single etched, spanner riveted item with the large Siegfried TM.

It also exhibits no markings on the fuselage, like my double etched C31. It is dedicated to Fliegerhorst Stade.

Now Wayne does show a Fliegerhorst Stade etch in his book on page 60, but that one is an Eickhorn etch. In fact, until I got this one, I didn't even know that Pack made this particular etch.

What happened with this one is that when I showed it to some friends (most of them here on GDC), I immediately got offers to move it. It turns out that the offers all came from one source, a big time collector, who absolutely wanted to have this pattern to complete a small grouping that he was working on. As an avid, some may say obsessive, collector, I know what it is like to be very close to completing a grouping and how important that is. And, since Packs are my second most favourite maker (I like Eick), I gave in and exchanged this item for a rare Eick etch, and a whole lot of good karma, I hope.

So, while no longer on the JohnZ wall, it was for a short while and it was pretty neat, you betcha!

John


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Obverse.JPG (194 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (194 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (194 downloads)
Reverse Grip.JPG (194 downloads)
TM.JPG (194 downloads)
Etch.JPG (193 downloads)
Etch Front.JPG (192 downloads)
Etch Rear.JPG (193 downloads)
MVC-098S.JPG (191 downloads)

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#244425 - 05/05/11 06:36 PM Re: Pack Oval Anti Tank [Re: stingray]
Ronald Weinand Offline



Registered: 08/07/00
Posts: 4867
Loc: Quincy, Illinois USA
When I decided to give up on trying to find all the Pack Ovals, I knew John had a start and only needed a few of the really rare ones (I had a few), so I elected to sell them to him so that SOMEONE could be close to finally having a complete set. I had tried, since my first work on bayonets, to assemble this set. I found it impossible and hoped that, with my additions, John would be able to accomplish this. It appears that he has the best shot in the hobby. As I told John at the time, that is the only reason I would part with the Weiser and the Langenberg Pack Oval pieces.
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#244439 - 05/05/11 08:55 PM Re: Pack Oval Anti Tank [Re: Ronald Weinand]
Billy G. Offline



Registered: 03/31/00
Posts: 4673
Loc: USA
I was pretty surprised Ron sold the Weiser & Langenberg Packs myself but can see his reasoning. It's nice they're in John's collection now along with plenty of good company. I agree with Ray too, this is probably the best Pack (& Eick?) collection in the world. Unless there's some hermit hiding out somewhere?
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#244444 - 05/05/11 11:10 PM Re: Pack Oval Anti Tank [Re: Billy G.]
JohnZ Offline



Registered: 03/29/06
Posts: 5222
Loc: Calgary
Ron and Billy:

Thank you.

Outside of the Oval C31 Stade Pack etch that I owned for about 2 weeks, is there any other Pack Oval pattern that you know of out there?

John
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#264092 - 04/30/12 04:57 PM Re: Pack Oval Anti Tank [Re: JohnZ]
JohnZ Offline



Registered: 03/29/06
Posts: 5222
Loc: Calgary
It has been almost a year since I last posted here.. and that is because it has been a long time since I picked up a Pack etched bayo.

This one came from my friend, Janos, and I picked this up in my very recent trip to Budapest.

It is a double etched long blade with the spanner bolts and the large Pack TM.

What makes this a wow etch for me is the fact that it has TWO Oval etches... the Oval Bugler on one side and the Neutral Eagle over Helmet on the other.

More than likely these etches were either salesman's or retail store sample to show what Pack could do.

John


Attachments
Obverse.JPG (98 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (98 downloads)
Obverse Etch.JPG (98 downloads)
Obverse Etch Front.JPG (98 downloads)
Obverse Etch Rear - Bugler.JPG (98 downloads)
Reverse Etch.JPG (97 downloads)
Reverse Etch Front.JPG (97 downloads)
Reverse Etch Rear - Helmet.JPG (97 downloads)
TM.JPG (96 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (96 downloads)

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#264099 - 04/30/12 07:50 PM Re: Pack Oval Anti Tank [Re: JohnZ]
BarryG Offline



Registered: 11/14/02
Posts: 347
Loc: Pennsylvania
absolutely wonderful Pack collection John. As an item of interest I have a Pack # 6 etch pioneer with Inf. Regt 124 Braunsberg Ost/pr etched on the ricasso. This and yours to Art Regt 57 represent 2 of about 5 or so Pioneer patterns I've seen to non Pioneer outfits from Braunsberg. Apparently many of them preferred the pioneer pattern.

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