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Gaspare its very nice collection of cufflinks and dutch ss
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E.,Do you see any Soviet pieces? CCCP, Hammer & Sickle? I always look while in East Europe but so far no luck finding any old ones..
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Haven't seen any interesting 3rd reich cufflinks around lately I though I'd bring this old topic back up..
* Remember members,, we just don't have 2 pages of topics here on the ring forum,,there are really 32 back pages and you must switch over if you aren't finding something you know must be here while doing a 'Search'...
Needing a a better display case for my cufflinks I for now put them in a padded box. Next show I'll find something better/unique to put them in.
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Gaspare; the Wolfsangel cufflinks...There exist a Dutch stormtroopers ( equivalent of the German SA) pin, that was identical, same black enamel and silvered or silver Wolfsangel.
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Only set I have and have been seen by some before. No markings on them.
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Mike
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those are neat-first i have ever seen. thanks for showing them. paul
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Mike/Spike,, yeah man, really nice! Come on guys,,any other cufflinks to post, please do even if they are not yours [just give proper credit].. Thanks........
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with a "little" luck i got some cufflinks too
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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and some with the colours of the empire and a blue (why blue? - maybe someone here has an idea) swastika
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Excellent Odal!! 2 classic patterns.. Not sure about the blue,,maybe for the KM[?]
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Thanks G.! Here some impressions from the whole "little" find i made
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Hi Odal- Whats in the grey with green colored interior maker marked box?
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black and white enamel - 2 examples from 2 different pairs
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Thats really a great find. The big leader so far for 2011! When you get a chance please show the brass looking pair and the Party pin types.. The party in types got to be early,, they really frowned on things like that once the war started..
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odal, No wonder I can't find any of these, because you have them all! Great find and congratulations!
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@Dean: The box is an old jewelers-box from the netherlands. Inside a real cheap made swastika/oakleaf ring. In this thread are some better pics: http://phpstack-500133-1583587.cloudwaysapps.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=236814#Post236814@Gaspare: No problem - i sure make pics from the others and post them. @Mikee: Wish you good luck in hunting!!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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and a unready made pair - it seems to be from copper and brass
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Odal, you surprise me once again. Sometimes I find one single German cufflinck, one! a year. My congratulations. Benten
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Thanks Benten! I try my best!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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yeah, cufflinks are harder to find than rings! Those party pin types are very rare. Wonderfull lot you got there. The unmade set remenmd me of a ring pattern. The gold plated ,,all really wonderfull pieces!
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Very informative thread I have just stumbled upon. Here is my addition to it. I rarely like SS cufflinks due to the slew of fakes that predominate the market, but I am comfortable with these. http://208.11.143.133/detail.asp?id=230&n=SS-Evening-Dress-Cufflinks
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years ago a Belgium collector owned the die for these cufflinks. It was actually a working die for a button. I own a ring like this and a friend had a single cufflink like Craigs, and they both fit into the die perfectly! I do have a photo of the die,,where it is I don't know but will try to find and post.
And, important the reverse of Craigs links, from a button like Assmann and the other manufactures that made both buttons and links, etc. ,, ,yeah, I like them too..
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G: Any idea who the original manufacturer was? Jim
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Sadly no Jim. Could have been any of the pre RZM and latter RZM [1934] button manufactures Or those making insignia, uniform fittings and even sub-contractors [M2]..
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These came to me from a consignor for the upcoming auction, and I liked them very much. They aren't the best quality - certainly the lower end of the totem poll. Lets just say that Ribbentrop wouldn't have worn these!
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found one of the die photos,,have more somewhere:
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The pieces are entirely unmarked.
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A little something different. A pattern Don used to call the SS Presentation Honor cufflinks. They were cause of much debate and trouble years ago. Nothing has ever been proved one way or the other. One thing for sure 100%,,J.v.Ribbentrop owned a pair. There were probably more and some do reside in private collections..
These photos are from the WAF e-stand. A month ago or so this one cufflink was offered for sale. Rather inexpensive. Only explained as: Found in a old jar with other old cufflinks. There is only one. The toggle is different than the ones out there being decorated on back. Markings are 835, the SS culture mark and nothing else, no date, no maker.
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simliar to Craigs,,I shoed these before but new photos ,,From a button maker:
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This is from the '[new name] 'Odal cufflink hoard'.
A large hoard was found of NOS cufflinks, hinged cuff buttons, also partial made pairs, documentation from manufacturer, along with stic pins made by the same:
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Also a new pair I got.. They might just be home made cuff links.
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I agree Gaspare. Those look like modified buttons. Jim
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I like that photo of the die, Gaspare!
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found something from my old files. Items for the cape and tuxedo!
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have some old photos to clear off so adding here..
A couple examples of the super rare Army cufflinks [where is an authentic ring?!],,,these mounted on a period sample board!
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