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Originally Posted By: WWII
Hi Karin,

What do you make of this one, KdF related? Possibly a trip down south to the Mediterranean? ... lots of lizards down there ... grin

Best!

Bill


Hi Bill!

Just thinking out loud? Could it be Lurchi? That creature on your pin? In 1937, all combined Salamander shoecompanies introduced Lurchi, to promote childrenshoes? Lurchi was a cartoon figure, still exists today even.. the cartoon changed from design a lot, I can't find many pics of him from 1937, but some here? And maybe you have one right there! But, shoes, are not travels, maybe Salamander arranged travels for kids too? Maybe adventure walkingtrips or something? The Lurchi comics were handed out at schools .. ?

More here.

Anyhow, just a thought?

Bye,
KR


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Karin Renate,

I remember running around in Salamander shoes as a young boy and that they were/are (?) a famous shoemaking company. It's the first time I've heard of Lurchi, however, I can see the similarity between the two amphibians - they're both Tiger Salamanders with the distinctive yellow/black markings. Even though my badge is a single color, one can see the places where the striped-highlights would go.

I'm not certain if there's a relationship between my badge and Lurchi, and/or the shoe company connections? What I do enjoy is the fact that you offered such good suggestions, ideas that I'd not considered before. Your insight into many of the facets of our hobby is outstanding and your input is welcome by me, anytime. ... gracias!

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Some pretty other Früjahrsmesse is already here, but look at this one! Wow, lovely colours, by that same maker E.O. Friedrich in Leipzig, where the Messe was (still is too!!) held. I have others by that maker, he/she surely did some cracking designs! And, made of that Efoplast again, which probably is eazy to colour, more then metals, and also surely cheaper then metals. Anyhow, maybe Friedrich was a bit like Sieper, who used plastik, and made many colourful Abzeichen too, like this or this. 2 very interesting makers!

So, with that, another awesome KdF Tagungsabzeichen. The year is a mystery still, like with the other Frühjahrspin. Maybe someone knows what pin was for what year? Or maybe groups had certain pins? Or there were more Messes in a Frühjahr?

The view, just . check it out ... gorgeous .. some banners before the silouet of the Messegebäude that we can better see in this one. The styled Luft und Wolken, and that colour used for tekst and swaz. I wonder, were did all the designers of these go, if anyone remembers, and any still alive?

Lovely and strong Abzeichen, good condition, sure hope wont turn out to be made yesterday. But, for now, Im lovin it much. Btw, if you think your dayjob is crazy? Here 2 guys doing promotion for the Frühjahrsmesse in 1932

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KR

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here is my STRENGTH THROUGH JOY flag just acquired and came back with a CANADIAN VET AND OFF A VESSEL NAME UNKNOWN

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Gosh Paul THAT is an amazing thing your flag! How HUGE is that anyways? That must look very very nice with your collection? Here I thought no one is interested in KdF, but, this is GREAT! Such a shame the veteran soldier dont remember the boatname .. thanks much for showing Paul Im waiting for a cool KdF find too, well NOT as massivly epic as yours but, well, will post when it gets here, I reckon it will take a while tho.

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KR


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SIZE IS ABOUT 5FT BY 2FT A NICE SIZE

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THAT is giantly HUGE Paul, almost as big as me Can you hang that somewhere? OH, is there a lable on it? Sometimes flags have those? Anyhow, dont have the "cool KdF thing" yet ofcourse, but, this 1s for you and posting your awesome flag ...

Hooking into the maker Sieper and Friedrich (post above), "they" were expreimenting lots with plastiks/chemicals and stuff. Reckon lots was tested during war, and lots we still use today. Take this gorgeous Abzeichen! Also KdF, super design! Very proud pin. I saw this also in blue? So, possibly this comes in other colours too, or with only the light colour painted and not the black. This one black'ish and silverish white painted up front, (see the close-up pic #2), blue (unpainted) at the back.

Anyhow, a very nice plastik pin, by the maker Walgo, a plastiks/chemicals company in Kierspe, a city in Nordrhein Westfalen. The company stil exists today, doing the same thing as back then; Kunststoffverarbeitung. Ha! Fun thing is, theres 3 Walgos in the RZM Liste; M1/175 (M1 for NSDAP Abzeichen), M5/189 (for uniform acesoires) and M9/20 (M9 for Tagungsabzeichen). Same company, maybe 2 locations? The 2 Walgos have diffring abreviations after the name, the first "Kom-Ges." and the other 2 "Inh. Goseberg". Inh. may mean owner? From Inhaber?

The company website is up, and the city, you can visit on the web here. The lion of the city coat of arms is used in the pin very nice I think. The maker at the back, clearly. "BHF" problaby means Bahnhof. Kierspe Bahnhof (means "trainstation") is a Stadtteil.

Gau Kurhessen, Leitung in city Kassel. Gau formed in 1925. In 1927, the Gau was split up, in Gau Hessen, Gau Hessen-Nassau Nord and Gau Hessen-Nassau Süd. In 1934, another reform, Gau Hessen-Nassau Nord renamed to Gau Kurhessen. This Gau Kurhessen had 2 Gauleiter; Karl Weinrich from 1934 to 1943, and Karl Gerland from 1943 to end of war.

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KR

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YOU WILL SEE MANY kdf IN PLASTICS ALL COLOURS, make a great collection if you can find them all.


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Hi Paul!

Originally Posted By: paulbear
YOU WILL SEE MANY kdf IN PLASTICS ALL COLOURS, make a great collection if you can find them all.


Surely yes! Well I like the Holzabzeichen just a little better? But the colourful plastics/efo/nitro/leder are so nice! Still, find them ALL? *LOL* There must 100s, 1000s?! Who knows for sure? Even Tiëste finds new tinnies sometimes But, OK just for fun, look at THIS! The Abzeichen is made by Sieper und Söhne in Lüdenscheid, mentioned here/here already. Its the very first KdF by Sieper I saw! Its a real goodlooker no? Nice marks at the back! This Abzeichen for KdF in Tirol und Vorarlberg. This was an NSDAP Gau, Tirol-Vorarlberg combined. Vorarlberg, is much smaller then Tirol, maybe 2 or 3 times. So, the Tiroler Wappen makes this brilliant tinnie. If you want you can see the Vorarlberger Wappen here too. NSDAP Gauleiter was Franz Hofer, we can see him here. And I could find the KdF Gauwart also, this was Fritz Mader. He was made chief of NS-Kulturgemeinde (NSKG) in Württmeberg Hohenzollern in 1937, and in 1942 he became profesor at the Stuttgart academy of arts. Other infos here. This tinnie is in Tiëste ofcourse, book L-Z of 2010 edition page 963, and its the only 1 Abzeichen for KdF Tirol-Vorarlberg in there. Used for background is something very nice KdF too but not linked to Tirol-Vorarlberg.

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Karin,

That's a gem, great find! wink

Best!

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smile I am throughly enjoying this thread. smile

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Hi Joe, William, Sirs Thanks for the cheers! And YES, it IS a very nice pin! BUT, lets not forget the Abzeichen NOT of plastik or wood or even without colours can be very nice too. Lets throw something in just to show this, yes?

For change, a metal Abzeichen. Made of sheetmetal. Not colourul, in fact, no colours at all, and a real pain to shoot I'm tellin you! But its so very nicely done. Not all Abzeichen show DAF plus KdF. This tinnie does! Feels like a Mitgliedsabzeichen; totally stunning detail! But to fully apreciate that we need to get very very close, so look at pics 4 and 5, just brilliant dont you think? Shot 4, look at that Eichenlaub'like decoration, so very small but so very detailed and done carefuly! There even are tiny little Eichel'chen right there! Go see, its cute! Shot 5, another little fine detail there, this Laub or leaf, and a close look at the lettering. These letters, very lovely, bit like Jugendstill lettering, no? The NSG KdF, like in the theaterposters and variétéprograms of the 1920s? Also the Eichenlaub-like decoratings around the edge, make it very luxuriouslooking. Very nice design, bit like a real medal.

NSDAP Gau Franken was formed in 1929 by joining Mittelfranken with district bezirk Nürnberg-Fürth. Leiter until 1940 was Julius Streicher. This Streicher was a bit of a riot, and got booted as Gauleiter so the Gau was left without Leitung till 1944 when Karl Holz took over. Btw, its fun to look a bit into Streicher, he also did the {in!!}famous Herkules Halle speech in Nürnberg in 1932. This speech called "Kampf dem Weltfeind" and that shows well how radical national socialist and antisemitic he was if you understand the subject was racial-nature. Anyways, see here if intersted, theres also parts of that speech there. Still Streicher was not the KdF Gauwart! I think that {could} have been Paul Dürr? But I only found 1 mention somewhere in some pdf hidden away and you need a supscription to some library to read more. A KdF Gau magazine often has a preface by the Gauwart, still looking for something like that for Gau Franken.

Anyhow, a real problemcolour this blank metal, to put in a shot, but, here it is!

Enjoy,
KR

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Nice one K. I agree, it can be difficult to photograph some of these items. I have trouble with bright silver items and sometimes bronze items.

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My bronze example like your silver.

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I saw some beautiful little gems here. And Karin, your photographical qualities are stunning. Please don't tell me you're using just an ordinary compact camera.

Regards, Wim

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NICE items here!

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Originally Posted By: lloyd

NICE items here!

Hi Lloyd,

thanks for the kind remark, Im glad you like these! You have something KdF too?


Originally Posted By: derjager
...My bronze example like your silver.

Joe hey!!

Your bronze(ish?) Gau Franken is very gorgeous! Again this fabulous condition you have, oh my, where you ever found those! Thanks for sharing that one!

Originally Posted By: Wim
I saw some beautiful little gems here. And Karin, your photographical qualities are stunning. Please don't tell me you're using just an ordinary compact camera.

Regards, Wim

Wim, what a surprise?! Gems, well, YES, these are awesome! Great you like them too! My qualities, ha ha, well, thanks, I guess, for the compliment? Practise practise practise, helps when you have time too much to kill, no? And, no, I wont tell you, about that compactcam and all. Or, maybe, YES, I will! Thats how it started at least? I sorta confiscated a Fuji Finepix S5000? And molested it too, ahem, BUT, itsa great cam still, and, its not about the cam realy is it? I mean, take a million $$$ cam, still people will shoot junk with it. And others, do wonders and make art with cams in mobiles, no? BUT, That FinePix has a pretty great Fujinon lense, and a pretty whopping max-aperture of 2.8, which actualy turns out a bit less big if you look at the results but it is impressive for macros and stuff.
However, no, no more compactcam, these recent shots, are made difrently! I was in Santa's "nice" book last Xmas, and, the big fellow brought me many presents, and Im breakin in this here new profi DSLR supercam PLUS 2 epic lenses! Its totally crammed with options and settings and stuff, will be a good while before I get the hanfg of all that, but, very cool to get to know! Anyways Ill PM the brand + lenses, Ill just feel like bragging, and Im not at all in any mood to start a "hey offtopic" or a "hey that brand is no good this brand is better with such lense and so and so", in the end, its just what anyone feels OK with, yes? Bsides, this cam/lense obviously is way better anyhow *LOL*

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OK we have metals, plastic, EFO's and porcelain even wood, but not this yet. This Abzeichen for KdF Gau Koblenz-Trier is made of clay. Truly very nice! Its nothing like any Allach statue or anything but imagine the very small size and then look at the beautiful image sculpted on the tinnie! Its lovely! A nice glazing coating, and, reckon its backed a couple times too. Showing 2 details here, look at her face! Theres little eyes and a nose ... OK, the nose is a bit scruffy, but, hows your nose at 70+?! Also, showing the nice little grapes at the bottom, with the leafes and all even! Amazing, no? No maker at the back, unfortunatly, but the claymould (I think they did?) for this surely took some time to make. This one,is in Tiëste on page 510 of the A-K book of 2010 edition. The background, is a DAF propaganda shot from a Volksfest in Trier in a DAF brochure.

The area between Koblenz and Trier, is also called Moselland in German. Very lovely area, see impression here. NSDAP Gauleiter was Gustav Simon. No trace of any KdF Leitung anywhere, not even has anything. Would anybody know if students from abroad have limited access compared to US students? I think I found the Handbuch der NSDAP-Gaue at JSTOR before I had my schoollogin active? Anyone from US has access to it? If so, does that have any names of Gauwarten or Kreiswarten for KdF?

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nice to see all these gems coming out this a very interesting area to collect

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Thanks Paul! Its very nice to see you like these too! And, YES, itsa supertopic to collect! Its got it all; awesome designs, epic complex politics an treacherus plots to learn about, KdF was evrywhere through the Reich so it tells many stories, and thats just the beginning. I still have your impresive flag on my mind, I hope to get back at that .. but for now, lets drift a bit ...

Robert Ley, fcourse yall know, he was the leader of DAF. He said, "Es kommt nicht darauf an, wie weit jemand springt, sondern daß er springt." And Ley truly believed that, and, in itself, his words are true, no? Very wise saying in fact. Many today should take advice from that and not be so judgemental or maliciouspleased about somebody trying, instead of cheering for the effort to try. Sport was a big thing in German 3rd Reich propaganda-land, and when KdF got founded and formed and progressed, sports were a big deal for the Freizeitsorganisation KdF. Kraft durch Freude, Freude durch Kraft. Reckon also to make people competitive and battleready a bit. In 1934, the first physical education course was founded in Berlin. This was a big succes and from then on in 1934 more and more courses and institutions for sports were formed. By end 1935, Germany had over 60 Sportämter, and end 1936 ALL the NSDAP Gaue and 680 Kreisen had their own Sportamt. National Socialistische Gemeinschaft Kraft Durch Freude named Gausportwarten and Kreissportwarten. In 1934, there were some 900 sports instructors in action. Next year, this was 1600 instructors. And in 1937, 7000! Kraft durch Freude Sport was born, and how!

In 1935, KdF Sport was still growing strong but not yet fully grown. In 1938 KdF Sport became THE Sports organisation of Germany. Before 1938, the Deutscher Reichsbund für Leibesübungen was the leading sports organisation. This DRL sorta got slowly obsorbed by KdF Sport. With this in mind, maybe, this badge is in place here. This pin is from 1935. And its made, by this E.O Friedrich from Leipzig again. The pin is made from, what Tiëste calls in his books Lederplastik. The DRGM at the back, means Deutsches Reich Gebrauchsmuster (3rd Reich registered design) so reckon the pin was only allowed to be made by Friedrich. The pin is maybe not very rare, but the pin with little green/white ribbons attached still IS special! Mostly now these ribbons are gone. The design, gorgeous, very much like the old greeks/romans; proud atheletic faces looking fiercly up, honorcrowns from branches on the heads, styled like the ancient olympic athletes statues. Very epic and very beautiful. Funny little detail for the closer looker there, the supertiny little swastika on the hairband or ribbon there. Took me a lookingglass to spot that!
Anyways, not 100% KdF maybe, but sicnificant in the whole picture, and its another pin by Friedrich. And WHAT a goodlooker! The background, is the cover of the magazine "Leibesübungen met Kraft durch Freude" from september 1935. I can scan it to post if anybodys intrested.

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KdF made the effort to educate, or better said indoctrinate, in every way, and also together with DAF and NSDAP, to get rid of decline/decay/waste and build/rebuild on that. Technical stuff, progress, inprove, develop, everything. Radio was cracking hot that time! Even the first KdF.-holidaytrain had its own radiostation in München, playing tunes for the relaxing holiday people in the train enjoying views. There was no organisation for artists rights, forbidding to play music in public anywhere, like trains or work. Attached, a shot of the radiostation for the first holidaytrain (pic 4), and a shot of the radiostation of a company; Betriebsrundfunkanlage der Dresdener Gardinen und Spitzenmanufaktur (pic 5). There were more KdF-holidaytrains and if that topic intresests you then look for the booktitle "Ein KdF.-Urlauberzug rollt ins Salzkammergut," (maybe here) or go see this. Theres surely some nice free knowledge out there. Also, in that link above, much to read about radio, or Funk, in German. Like, all radiostations, were obligated to play each an every talk/speech Hitler did anywhere. Ofcourse, also other rules, regultations and all that. Control over/influence people by radio. And present the technology as fun. This pin, is for a KdF trip to the Berliner Funkausstellung, the exhibition of/for radio(technology), in 1938. Theres another of these for a year earlier, that pin is maybe twice the size of this? The one here is about 2.5 centimetres high and 2 centimetres wide (1 by 0.8 inches). Smashing design, proud little eagles head, in front of the swastika. In Tiëste on page 91 of book A-K of 2010 edition.

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KR

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NEAT items here! I LOVE the pics!

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I hope this fits into this thread but here's an item in my collection. If nothing else it shows that the Germans had a medal for for just about anything. Sorry about the washed out center on the front as I had to shoot this under artificial light.
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NEAT items here! I LOVE the pics!

Thanks Lloyd! Nice comments are always appreciated


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I hope this fits into this thread but here's an item in my collection. If nothing else it shows that the Germans had a medal for for just about anything. Sorry about the washed out center on the front as I had to shoot this under artificial light.
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Hi Jim! Youre very right! Medals for anything, YES! And why wouldnt it fit here? It links to some posts back, so, thanks much for sharing this! That is a very beautiful plaqete, wow! I like the Rollhockey part! Ha ha, thats cool, when all is good I do evrything on skeelers, so, very nice! To share the sidestep, from Abzeichen this time not from KdF, look at pic number 4 attached! Hows THAT for collectable?! A nice KdF Kodak-Box 620 camera! Thats gotta at least make a few people grin? Its not mine, I just found it somewhere. Your sportsaward must be realy rare, no? Probably is more expensive then evrything togethere here!?? Is it made of horn? Or bone? Or .. ?

Anyhow, back on KdF, what IS mine, is a lovely Delitzsch - Volks- und Heimatfest 3. und 4. Juli 1937 Abzeichen, that shows the KdF logo. Yes, by Friedrich again! And from Nitroplast this time. Seems a bit more thin then Efoplast Abzeichen but thats just coincidence maybe. Its super detailed, this! Very nice to sit an watch it with a lookingglass sorta like a peepbox, you know, you made as child? Truly very nice colours, this blue brownish. At the back, the maker and "D.R.P.a.", meaning "Deutsches Reichspatent angemeldet", so, another design officialy only made by Friedrich.

Here you can find nice postal stamps for that fest. in 1937 btw the towns Dewitz, Döbitz and Plösitz were added to Delitzsch.

The background, a dancegroup performing Heimattänze in KdF-Stadt. So not Delitzsch but still nice. KdF-Stadt, we know from Volkswagen Werk, and is today known as Wolfsburg, very near Fallersleben, were most of the people, that built the KdF Wagens came from.

Enjoy,
KR

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Jim,

Very nice looking award and case, great condition.

KR,

Another exceptional KdF pin, you have a great eye for these.
How did you find that neat camera? Good to see you're staying "focused" on the KdF items ... grin

Best!

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Hi William and Jim!

Focus! Ha ha, that cam, its a cracker aint it? Its fun! Also nice for a fotografhy museum, no? Found it by surprise, but its disapeared now, we tracked it tho, and, well, I hope I can focus on that cam more some day soon! Thanks for the remark on the pin. Couldnt believ no one else placed bids on it? I saw only 1 other of these at a dealer, for a majorrr price! So, yes, Im stoked with it! Its truly so nice to look at.

Jim, your award, I just know I found a Rollhockey shot somewhere, I want to show you, but, Im overlooking it I reckon. So, I did find this, not hockey, but it surely links to rolling! Some nice history on Rollhocky here or here, for exemple.

Anyhow, thanks guys

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KR

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here is my STRENGTH THROUGH JOY flag just acquired and came back with a CANADIAN VET AND OFF A VESSEL NAME UNKNOWN


I rreally wanted to show your flag waving from a boat, but, I cant! I tried, sorry .. Instead, I can show you your flag on a menu, used on the Wilhelm Gustloff. The ship is named after the killed National Socialist party leader in Switserland. The killer was a student who rebelled against the very loud antisemitic views and works of Gustloff. The ship was built in 1936, was the first KdF ship, and, put to water in 1937. You can see a shot from the Stappellauf in shot 4. The ship, was as unlucky as the person it was named after. You can read all about this massive ship here or here and much much more. Shots 1 - 4, the menu, with your flag on it, and some fotographs of the ship. The menu is kinda special, it was for november 9, and, it mentions the memorial parade for the fallen of 1923! There were many more ships, KdF made a whole fleet. The Robert Ley, named after the leader of DAF and founder of KdF, was built in 1938, started work in 1939. Shot 5 shows Robert Ley, and that ship. Anyhow, if I ever find a shot waving your flag Paul Ill post it yes?

Bye,
KR

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Grundsteinlegung, the laying of the 1st stone of the Volkswagenwerk! Very much looked for this Abzeichen, and very hard to find a real one, surely must be THE most sought after KdF pin? People that like cars, people that like Volkswagen or Käfer, people that collect pins, people that collect militaria, and, theres 1 or 2 maybe like me, doing KdF stuff. When you go look for this pin you'll find many fakes, and, the variety of what pins you find, should make you very careful! The best references, are period books and magazines and other publications. But not evrything is in these, or the magazines didnt always survive?

2nd shot is the pin, next to a picture of it in a 1938 publication; a big KdF book, "Unter dem Sonnenrad". The whole Deutsche Volkswagen story is there, but also SO VERY many other facts and stories, evrything KdF is in it, till 1938 ofcourse, in all its National Socialist propaganda ways. Its truly a very intresting book if youre into this stuff. Well, I surely am anyhow. Also, some shots of pics in the book; 1 shows the Grundsteinlegungabzeichen actually in wear! Look closely, to the shot of the Führer in the Käfer, the 2nd upper body you see, where Hitlers cap touches the Ärmelband of the body behind him? On the collar there. Blurry, but still, a very very rare shot of this Abzeichen in wear. How cool is that?! Also, another shot I like, of Robert Ley and Hitler, and some others, looking at a scaled Käfer model. Hitler, quirkyly touching or tapping the bonnet, as if hes not sure, if its gonna growl at him or bite him or anything *LOL*

All the new Reichsautobahnen needed traffic, so, everybody could get a car, in the concept of the KdF-Wagen. In theory ofcourse. No one ever got their KdF-Wagen. Still, after the war, the car began a long successful life, no? Ivan Hirst really saved the car that started in 1934; Talks about the car and idea began between Hitler and Porsche in 1934. In 1937, Robert Ley founded the Gesellschaft zur Forbereitung des Deutschen Volkswagens. Near Fallersleben, a new citylike thing came to be, known as KdF-Stadt, were the Volkswagenwerk was buildt. Fallersleben was the city most workers came from that buildt the KdF-Wagens. KdF-Stadt is now called Wolfsburg. Many foreign (to Germany) workers build the Vokswagenwerk, mostly Italians. The saving-for-a-car concept, was new and we still have such systems today, like much other KdF things like grouptraveling, mass holiday resorts for exemple.

In the 1st shot, you see many papers, like a Sparkarte, and Quitungen, and forms, and KdF-Wagen-correspondance, awesomely impressive ... a big part showing the saving of a person for the KdF-Wagen! Even with orignal KdF envelopes. AND, correspondance from the organisation that tried to get back the money (or part of) for KdF-Wagen savers, from Volkswagen. Did you know, an after war organization for Volkswagen Sparer existed? It did a lawsuit against Volkswagen. The final verdict of that lawsuit was in 1961, on 19 oktober. The Bundesgerichtshof in Karlsruhe decided, that DAF was responsible for the savings and not Volkswagen, this cleared Volkswagenwerk from any more lawsuits and the company didnt have to pay back any money. No saver ever did get the money back from DAF. A nice background artickle in Der Spiegel in 1950. If you like, find more info here. Ricardo also put some nice stuff here some time ago.

Bye,
KR

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I had to look twice to see the inwear pic. smile
Nice find K, and as always a great presentation.

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KR,

Your photography is top-notch, and the well thought out layouts add much zest to the items ... bravo!

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Thank you both Sirs, for the nice comments Actually, there are discussions about what this Abzeichen is made from? I thought its metal, but, its from bakelite! I thought bakelite was very hard plastic, and never knew about it, or that it comes in so many types! During the 1940s the US government even planned to make coins out of bakelite. Some jewelry is even made from it too, and ... this Grundsteinlegungsabzeichen. See here how to possibly test this.

Another Abzeichen thats printed in the 1938 KdF book; the Sportappell der Betriebe 1938 Abzeichen. That IS made of plastic, another nice one by Sieper und Söhne. The Werkscharen, workers organised in units, much like troops, were much used from about 1935. These used the community feeling, as prescribed by DAF, to form close plant communities that worked very hard, well organized and smoothly. These used sports to get workers fit and to get the teamspirits up. Employees had to do ballsports, calisthenics, gymnastics and whatever, as much as they could do. This "sports in the plants" was part of the "Beauty of Labor", promoted by the Amt für Schönheit der Arbeit. Every year, the Amt had a theme, like the Reichsparteitagen. In 1938, the theme was Gesunde Luft im Arbeitsraum. The pin is nicely marked at the back.

Enjoy,
KR

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Its a real pleasure going through the thread you guys have going here.
That Gau München-Oberbayern pin on page 1 is a real beauty.Very stunning.
Thanks for the great work.

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Originally Posted By: Dean Perdue
..That Gau München-Oberbayern pin on page 1 is a real beauty.Very stunning...

Hi mister Perdue!

Thanks, and yes, that truly is such a beautiful Abzeichen! Had'nt touch it in ages it seems, and, I forgot how heavy it is, when you compare it to tinnies! It surely is a brooch, very thick metal, not flimsy at all. Funny you should bring it up now, a commercial advertising for the KdF-Wagen reads "5 Mark die Woche mußt Du sparen – willst Du im eignen Wagen fahren! Über Anschaffungspreis und Zahlungsweise erteilen Auskunft alle Betriebswarte und Dienststellen der NS.-Gemeinschaft Kraft durch Freude Gau München-Oberbayern". Headquarters of DAF and KdF for Bavaria, was in München at Brienner Straße 26–28, untill KdF took over a big classic building from a successfull semitic bookseller, J. Rosenthal, for hardly any money, ofcourse. Some nice deep Gau infos can be found here. The pretty Edelweiss already discussed here.

Maybe, its OK to post another few shots, but closer up? Couldnt get this close back when I made the others .. Look at those little details! Many tinnies are really goodlooking, and, I like to dive into them with lookingglass, imagine how these got designed back in that time, drawing or sculpted, and from that, molded, and many times made, amazing! Even little cloth-threads around the pin at the back still.

Also, I was thinking, now I know a very little bit more about KdF, this KdF-Betreuerinnen brooche, what were the Betreuerinnen for? For KdF or from KdF? I mean, did they promote KdF, or were they from the KdF-Truppen-Betreuung? The entertaining/wellbeing of the fighting troops or ocupation force? Does anyone know this? Anyways, thanks again, and enjoy!

Bye,
KR

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You are really talented, do you know that! Even a dull old penny would look great if pictured by you.

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Wim. You are 100% correct about Karin. She does take some very excellent pictures.
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Karin,
Thank you very much for what is, no doubt, the most informative thread on the KdF available anywhere. I, and I'm sure others have learned a great deal from your excellent postings and superb photography.

Here is my only KdF item; a 4mm JG Anschutz training rifle. Hopefully you can provide more information on the KdF shooting programs?

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Thanks to Karin & Bill, I've even learned a bit more about the Salamander Shoe Company on pages 4 & 5 of this thread.
Bill, a bit off topic but thought you might be interested in seeing my G98 ammunition pouch dated 1915. Bad lighting, but it says "J. Sigle & Cie, Kornwestheim, Salamander Schuhfabriken".

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Denny,

That's a super looking rifle, wow! Is that something like a .19 caliber, pellet-like deal? In a word, exceptional !! Really a fabulous addition to Karin Renate's nice thread.
Not only does this creative young lady bring us some fine research and photography, she seems to bring out the best in us, too ! cool

I've admired many of your great posts over the years Denny and applaud your efforts being a great ambassador for the the hobby. There's no doubt you're an 'old-school' gentleman. Thanks for that...

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Hello Bill,
I can't remember for certain, but think the 4mm is the approximate equivalent of .16 calber. Here are some pics of the cartridge used. In one photo, I have used a .22 caliber Long Rifle cartridge for comparison.
 
Also, thank you for the kind words. Coming from someone as esteemed in the hobby as yourself is a compliment of the highest order.

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Oh my, what a lot of posts by new people to me too, awesome, and, staring at the screen unsure of what to respond! Im truely honoured guys, gosh .. stammer-stammer .. Ill just go by them 1 by 1?

Originally Posted By: Wim
..Even a dull old penny would..

Originally Posted By: SSman
..does take some very excellent..

Weeeell guys, not sure, Im just havin a freak with the things a bit, and then Im only pushing the clickettybutton, honestly, many of them dont need much to make it look great, they are nicelooking, Im not making them do that, but, thanks for the compliment Still, even simple Abzeichen, maybe not even intresting to anyone, it has no swastika or symbol, just a little farm, or house, or trees, but even that looks stunning! Ill attach one yes? A very simple pin, but, just look at it! Someone had fun making that! And you can see, they didnt get made for throwing away ... theres a bunch of these, for Gau Koblenz-Trier, already discussed here. Thers like 6 designs in this little series but maybe more, sometimes even Tiëste finds something new! Made by at least 2 makers; Robinson in Oberstein und Hähe, and the one that did this one; Ziemer und Söhne, also in Oberstein, this maker finishes pins a little bit tidier. Ziemers Prasidialkanzlei number is 111. There exist a company called Ziemer und Söhne today but they say this started in 1959. Anyways, simple pin and maybe not very intresting but it looks great and I like it much!

Originally Posted By: Denny Gaither
..the most informative ..

Hello mister Gaither! Thanks for the compliment, Im very happy you like this, and honoured by your remark, I dont know if it is, but Im only havin fun, so, maybe, thats helps? Anyways, Im clumbsy with this so quickly rushing on before I ruin anything ... Your gun! Now THAT is amazing, I never ever anywhere saw anything like that? I would guess KdF is not about shooting BUT shooting is also sports so, yes, why not? "Eigentum des Sportamtes" on it, and the Kraft durch Freude marking, wow, its awesome to see this!! I truly know nothing of a shooting training program but definately will look for anything I can find! Guns are illegal here for people to have, only the wrong ones have guns, but pelletguns are not illegal, if you have it indoor, or shoot it on your own terrain and the pellet stays on your own terrain, and the gun aint visible to anyone not on your terrain. Something like that. I made a little Google and found this, maybe your gun now? Very very jealousy-inspiring your gun Denny, reckon its totallly impossible to find another! Enjoy it very much but you surely will. Anschutz still makes shooters. There is a pelletgun here, and I shot it a few times, but, too many birds and bunnies and others around and I dont want to hurt any of these. Still, your gun, very very epic! Does it shoot still? Do you shoot it? As soon as I find anything KdF-Schießerei Ill post, yes? Thank you so so much for sharing your KdF-treasure! Good show that! And totally new to me!

William SIR I dont understand caliber, but, the gun here so not Dennys übergewehr is a standard 4.5mm, and thats like a .177, I have the box of little pellets here tell me this *LOL* But its an old gun, and Im told pimped, or upgraded in shootingforce, whatever thats called? It goes further/harder then it did originally. The pellets are not ~~quite~~ that 4.5 size, but a bit bigger? So these are unstandard 4.52, which, well, obviously exist, you can buy these, and the standard 4.5 pallets just fall thru the barrel, too little. But the gun over at the link above is 4mm too, you maybe need to make your own pellets? Or make them smaller? But, Dennys gun, looks like a real gun, not a pelletgun, like the one here? The pellets look like real bullets?

Originally Posted By: Denny Gaither
.. Bill, I've even learned a bit more about the Salamander Shoe Company on pages 4 & 5 of this thread..

Ha ha, YES, no! Not offtopic at all! And if it is, never anything new without a bit offtopicing, no? Its great to see these! Great you found out about it, Salamander Schuhfabriken marking, nice, epic to see things fall in bigger pictures! is 1915 the year, or the model?

Thank you,
KR

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Originally Posted By: Denny Gaither
..the most informative ..

I made a little Google and found this, maybe your gun now? Very very jealousy-inspiring your gun Denny, reckon its totallly impossible to find another! Enjoy it very much but you surely will. There is a pelletgun here, and I shot it a few times, but, too many birds and bunnies and others around and I dont want to hurt any of these. Still, your gun, very very epic! Does it shoot still? Do you shoot it?

(Hello Karin,
Thank you for your kind words regarding my only KdF item. To answer a few of your questions - The rifle you discovered on the internet is not mine. Please notice the inscription on the receiver bridge says "Büscher Sportmodell, Nürnberg". I have seen a few of these KdF rifles with this marking. I have seen only two with the "Kraft durch Freude" marking as mine is. I have owned this rifle since 1969.
Yes, it does shoot, but I have only test fired it nearly 40 years ago. I deeply agree with you about the "birds and bunnies". I am a collector; not a hunter!)

William SIR I dont understand caliber, but, the gun here so not Dennys übergewehr is a standard 4.5mm, and thats like a .177, I have the box of little pellets here tell me this *LOL* But its an old gun, and Im told pimped, or upgraded in shootingforce, whatever thats called? It goes further/harder then it did originally. The pellets are not ~~quite~~ that 4.5 size, but a bit bigger? So these are unstandard 4.52, which, well, obviously exist, you can buy these, and the standard 4.5 pallets just fall thru the barrel, too little. But the gun over at the link above is 4mm too, you maybe need to make your own pellets? Or make them smaller? But, Dennys gun, looks like a real gun, not a pelletgun, like the one here? The pellets look like real bullets?

(My rifle is not an air/pellet gun, and the 4mm cartridges I have shown, DO have gunpowder in them.)
Originally Posted By: Denny Gaither
.. Bill, I've even learned a bit more about the Salamander Shoe Company on pages 4 & 5 of this thread..

Ha ha, YES, no! Not offtopic at all! And if it is, never anything new without a bit offtopicing, no? Its great to see these! Great you found out about it, Salamander Schuhfabriken marking, nice, epic to see things fall in bigger pictures! is 1915 the year, or the model?

(1915 is the year of manufacture for the pouch)
Thank you,
KR


Karin, thanks again for your interesting & informative thread!

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