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John

I admire your presentation. That looks like a nice aged Prussian knot on the Prussian bayonet. The center piece of the knot is black?

I am sure you have sufficient examples to compare the clamshell on your short private purchase bayonet, but I was curious as to the method by which the bottom fitting was attached to the metal scabbard. Such examples are not unknown. Here is mine, a Z on Shield (don't know that maker) example I have had for some time.



Both upper and lower fittings were attached with recessed screws as you can see here.




Does the brown Fischer frog have any other markings? Perhaps "Gend."?

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Joe:

The Z inside of Shield logo is for Clemen & Jung.

There is no other marking on the frog.

The scabbard tip fitting seems to be pressed on.. there are no srews or obvious things holding it onto the scabbard. And, there is no upper fitting as on yours.

The knot on the long Feld is not black, it looks more like a ver dirty gold or copper. The center piece is the same dirty looking copper ish colour.

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Fresh from the 2013 SOS is this long uncut Weimar police clamshell bayonet with the double oval Eickhorn TM (No CE, straight arm, three serrations in tail and small asterisk).

Not quite what I collect (I am trying to stay within the Third reich era), but still a nice addition to my small wink Eick Police collection.

John

Obverse.JPG (39.85 KB, 281 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (39.94 KB, 283 downloads)
TM dbl serr (3) sm asterisk No CE.JPG (39.34 KB, 283 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (39.31 KB, 284 downloads)
Reverse Grip.JPG (39.65 KB, 284 downloads)
Obverse Pommel.JPG (40.36 KB, 284 downloads)
Obverse Grip Plate & Insignia.JPG (41.3 KB, 284 downloads)
Obverse Crossguard & Clamshell.JPG (39.71 KB, 283 downloads)
Obverse Blade Tip.JPG (39.84 KB, 282 downloads)
Reverse Grip Plate.JPG (38.88 KB, 281 downloads)
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A very nice, unaltered, Prussian Police bayonet. These get harder and harder to find in this condition. Nice find!


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Very neat Police bajo, I like it !congrats

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While I did miss the MAX show, I did manage to snag a couple of nice items during that time frame. This one comes from Patrice of this forum.

Here is something that complements my above long Weimar police bayonet:

This is a short Weimar police bayonet with the small double oval serrated tail no CE TM.

I think that this is it for Weimars.. there should not be a cut down Weimar, right? If cut down, the grip insignia would be replaced by the TR eagle.

John

Obverse.JPG (38.9 KB, 227 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (39.65 KB, 227 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (39.9 KB, 228 downloads)
Reverse Grip.JPG (39.25 KB, 226 downloads)
Obverse Pommel.JPG (41.67 KB, 226 downloads)
Obverse Grip Insignia.JPG (40.26 KB, 228 downloads)
Obverse Crossguard.JPG (86.65 KB, 227 downloads)
TM1.JPG (40.32 KB, 226 downloads)
Two Grips Short and Long.JPG (39.13 KB, 226 downloads)
Two 1.JPG (41.1 KB, 226 downloads)

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Very nice John!

A pleasure to look at!

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Hello
I recently got this one.
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Alain,

That's a very nice 3R produced example, I particularly love the short, uncut blade. You're lucky to have snagged it!


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Alain:

Nice!

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Hello
Thanks for your comments.
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Still steaming from a very quick delivery from the States, is this short aluminium fittings Eickhorn clamshell police bayonet with the 35-41 seated squirrel TM.

Thank you, Stingray, for thinking of me when this bayonet crossed your path.

John

Obverse.JPG (41.46 KB, 187 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (41.87 KB, 187 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (39.15 KB, 187 downloads)
Reverse Grip.JPG (39.54 KB, 186 downloads)
Obverse Pommel.JPG (41.75 KB, 186 downloads)
Obverse Grip Insignia.JPG (39.77 KB, 186 downloads)
Obverse Clamshell.JPG (86.29 KB, 186 downloads)
Reverse Grip Plate.JPG (39.92 KB, 186 downloads)
Reverse Crossguard.JPG (39.35 KB, 186 downloads)
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The short bayonet, with its aluminium fittings is very lightweight. I also have a long one that I got from Ron Weinand a while back. This long one is very heavy and hefty.

But, both have the sought after 35-41 seated squirrel TM and both have the clamshells.. the two together make these police bayonets a gratifying find for me.

John

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Two Grips Obverse.JPG (39.28 KB, 186 downloads)
Two Grips Reverse.JPG (39.35 KB, 184 downloads)
Two Pommels.JPG (39.37 KB, 185 downloads)
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John,

A beautiful addition to your collection! What I find interesting is the difference in grip eagles. Up until this point, I don't think I've ever seen a '35-'41 marked bayonet with anything but the later produced wide-winged variety which you show on your 17" blade example. The short model with stubby-winged variety grip eagle looks great!

I also noticed that the short model bayonet has a narrow blood groove which I believe is also unusual., I've never seen that variant blade before on an Eick. I have two aluminum hilt Eickhorn Polizei bayonets, a '35-'41 & an "over the shoulder" mark & both have the typical width blood groove


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Billy:

I also have the following police bayonets:

Clamshell double oval with a plain pommel
Cut down 35-41
Short 35-41
Medium 42
Two double ovals
Single oval
Triple oval

I class them as short (10.25 inches), medium (14 inches) and long (17 inches).

John

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Obverse Grip.JPG (39.35 KB, 156 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (40.41 KB, 154 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (38.84 KB, 154 downloads)
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Police Bayonets are awesome. The bottom two bayos in this pic are Eicks. The slotted one is a later aluminum type with the 35-41 TM

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I have this cut down, clamshell removed police bayonet by Eickhorn, just in from Brock's Inc.

It is a small double oval serrated tail with no CE TM, but look at the tail.. it has 3 serrations. My other cut down police with this type of TM has 2 serrations (the last picture is of this TM).

John

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Reverse.JPG (40.97 KB, 117 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (40.58 KB, 117 downloads)
Reverse Grip.JPG (39.41 KB, 116 downloads)
Obverse Pommel.JPG (39.97 KB, 117 downloads)
Obverse Grip Plate.JPG (40.72 KB, 117 downloads)
Obverse Crossguard.JPG (40.08 KB, 116 downloads)
Number 40.JPG (41.7 KB, 117 downloads)
TM dbl serr(3) No CE.JPG (39.71 KB, 116 downloads)
TM dbl serr(2) small asterisk No CE.JPG (40.03 KB, 116 downloads)

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hello my contribution: my two EICKHORN bayonets




















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Alex,

That's a very nice pair of Eickhorn Polizei bayonets. I like the unit marking on them, the P.Fr. is for the Polizeischule at Frankenstein. I believe the H.P. is for the Senior Police School but I'm not sure. Thanks for sharing!


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