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I really have now words anymore for such nice tunics I have seen today on the GDM forum. Thanks Darryl,Doug, Donald & co. for posting such rar high end items.
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Wonderful material, Darryl, indeed. A pity one does not know where these black textiles reside now. Thank you for the images and your generosity to us all in every sense. The Fulda- Werra piece is for the Sturmbannfuehrer who was a graduate of Oswald Pohl's administrative academy, sorta, and was on the staff of the Oberabschnitt HQ. Pohl was quite the genius of organization and training, and those who wore this badge were part of his accolytes. In any case, a marvelous uniform. Thanks to colleagues for all the fetid black woolens. Beyond Mr. Ostermann's Reiter, though, this thread is borne by a small group known to one another. It is sad we cannot summon forth further examples unknown to our little band of seekers. It is somewhat akin to the search for life in the wider galaxies. Is there so little in fact? Then these black fabric things are far more rare than I might have thought. I always imagine that there are unknown collections with hundreds of examples, in sub terranean bunkers, in something like Area Fifty One or the Alpine Redoubt or Xanadu &c. It is sad that the images from the Coleman collection and the Pepera collection were annihilated with the end of the Bob Rodgers site. These figures have much in their wonderful collections.
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quote: It is sad that the images from the Coleman collection and the Pepera collection were annihilated with the end of the Bob Rodgers site. These figures have much in their wonderful collections.
Mr. Abenheim, I need to inform you that nothing from my forum is lost Rest assurd that the pictures and information has been saved
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Hello. Sorry for the poor quality pictures it is the best i could do under the circumstances.
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Something like this
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quote: Originally posted by Bob Rodgers: quote: It is sad that the images from the Coleman collection and the Pepera collection were annihilated with the end of the Bob Rodgers site. These figures have much in their wonderful collections.
Mr. Abenheim, I need to inform you that nothing from my forum is lost Rest assurd that the pictures and information has been saved
Thanks for such news. However, we can no longer peer at these images, can we?
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Nice white tunic, I guess this is the Nuernberger tailor tunic when I am right.
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Here one of the Coleman treasures, to accompany the white tunic above which lives in the same Schatzkammer. This textile was the property of the Standortkommandeur of the Waffen SS for Munich. The peanut gallery had been irritated by the collar patches on this piece ("too late a pattern for a black uniform....") but this figure might well have worn the black uniform into 1942 and beyond (look at the photos of the Staatsbegraebnis of Gauleiter Wagner, for instance...) despite the paper order from the RFSS that the black uniforms be shredded. The tunic itself was tailored by C. Louis Weber in Hannover. The tunic was from Shea at one point in its existence. Were all the black uniforms in the SSVT/SSTV/Waffen SS then recycled? Plainly not, granted how many have survived, in fact. Someone should collect all the documents on recycling of party textiles on this score. It would be of great interest. In any case, this uniform made it through the abyss and resides in one of the leading collections of the world. Many thanks to its kind owner.
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Here is the Aermelstreifen on this tunic. A pleasing example of its type. Stickerei in seiner schoensten Form! Notice the "S" intrudes into the alu. border.
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Hi guys,Do like the photos,posting my Germanske SS Norge tunic.. Jonny
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Very pleasing piece. Did the Norwegians wear the dagger, also? Very handsome piece. Thank you for the images.
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Jonny, a very nice interesting tunic you have. Gratulations also to the badge & the dagger !
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Thanks guys,,Yes Donald,the Germanic SS Norway got daggers,you can se a wedding photo of Norwegian waffen SS frontfighters and the chief of staff in GSSN"with SS-daggers" in page 624 in the superb book of Thomas T.Wittmann(Exploring the dress daggers and swords of the German SS),The Germanic SS Norway was a reality after autum 1940(together with the rest of the Germanic countrys)In Norway 1285 members in 1945.The first 150 members swear loyalty to Heinrich Himmler hwo was in Norway in January 1941 and May 1941 Norwegian waffen SS frontfighters(about,6000)the first ones swear to Himmler.(The SS-dagger on the tunic is a ground Rohm with the SS number 35555 on the crossguard,not original to this tunic.... Jonny
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Many warm thanks. Very interesting material and I take pleasure in learning something each day. Do these Norwegian daggers endure in Norway? I do not own the Wittmann book, which is my mistake, surely. schoene Gruesse nach Norwegen. What happened to the 1300 Germanische SS members in 1945?
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Glad to shear,as you know the Germans was in Norway during the war,and when the war was over all the Germans was stripped for weapons,even daggers,so tru the years a lot of SS daggers turned up,both 33 and chain(many SD in Norway)unfortunately the SS m/36 swords was few in the end of the war,becouse the Germans was taken them back to Germany becouse of the regulations,and a pile of this swords went to USA as war booty after the war..please send them back to Norway Consirning the frontfighters and the GSSN members they went to prison for aprox,3 to 6 years,someone even moore,shame on the tribunal in Norway,people demand hard justice. Jonny
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This was posted by strassberger on WMCA
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Here are three from John Pepera
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How about one pic from the OTTO collection that Kia was selling:
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last one for now J. Mengele signature
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BOB C Buying big and small collections Kriegsmarine daggers and Samurai swords
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Bob, No one can argue that It is
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My small black contribution. Matching set for Fusstandarte 68, Regensburg, taken off the same uniform by a vet from US 4th army.
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Bravo. Very nice ensemble. This Oberscharfuehrer rank was very common in the surviving memorabilia I have seen. Viel Sammlerglueck.
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Superb stuff!
And thanks Bob R, for saving and posting many wonderful pics of items shown by collectors.
PVON
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Another Clemens Wagner cap of late make....
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The interior of an officer's Sonderanfertigung with the marks of time.....a photo courtesy of Texasueberalles and his very fine material....
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