UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons SA & NSKK Dagger Forum Ultra Rare NSKK Honor Dagger

Thought I would share my early NSKK Honor with everyone. This is an ultra rare piece, Im sure one of the dealers will jump in and correct me if im wrong but I believe there are only about five or less known examples like this. Its identical to the SAHL except the handle is slightly deeper in colour and varnished, and the scabbard has a really lovely super fine high quality black leather covering.

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That's truly wicked.
Thanks Mongo!
Cheers

First off,as we all know, pictures can be deceiving. I am wondering why you think this is a NSKK honor dagger and not an SA example with very dark leather on the scabbard and a dark grip? In your pictures the leather looks dark brown to me and the grip is within the parameters(light to dark) I've seen for grip coloration on SAs.
Jim

That is an impressive dagger, Mongo!

Especially for someone who was quitting the hobby some months ago...

Thanks for showing it!

Herman

Its definately Black! If I get a chance I will post pics side by side with my SA or SS Honor dagger so you can compare.

Wow, stunning looking piece - thanks for showing it!

Regards

Russ

Absolutly stunning dagger, congratulations.
Is it possible to get a better picture of the blade and crossguard (i fully understand if not)?
Also, a honor dagger like this, would it come whit a special hanger or a standar type?

Best Regards
Ståle

It does have an unusual long black hanger as well. When I take a few more picures I will photograph the hanger as well.

mongobongo:
Thanks for the quick reply, looking forward to se more pictures of your amazing dagger.

Best Regards from Sweden.
Ståle

Incredibly rare, well done ! Is that the original guilding on the blade...if so looks 100% ?

Jonathan

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Originally posted by mongobongo:
Its definately Black! If I get a chance I will post pics side by side with my SA or SS Honor dagger so you can compare.

I can only dream of having one, but three! Wow. Nice job.

John

Very nice and can only dream to ever own one of these.
Congrats !

I had only ever heard of a chained NSKK Honour, but, since both variations exist in the SA Honour, I am not surprised.

Amazing piece, Mongo. I am a wee bit jealous. Congrats.

John

you lucky lucky man

This dagger was stolen by Chris Ailsby and then resold to member mongobongo. mongobongo, can you please say how much you paid for it?

Here is the story:

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.co...wthread.php?t=398374

,,certain to be continued.

It's raging over on WAF.

Sure is!

PVON

Terrible! What a horrible story!!

A few mistakes were made over there alright!..
Wrong price estimated for the piece. Sending first..
He was supposed to get $12K. but it looks like he got nothing! Why the wait though for legal action? etc....

US, UK, I wouldn't care if he was in bum **** Egypt,,,I'd be at that MoFos door with some of the local talent and sure enough get it back..

Last and biggest 2 mistakes,,you don't trust people you don't know,,and you never sell your families stuff! Hope rightful owner gets it back... And, if it was scammed from the seller I hope the 'buyer' gets what he deserves,,pay backs are a MFer!!

The amount was more like $10K, probably less, considering the exchange rate must have been considerably lower 1.5 years ago.
Its $9,916 as of today.
It appears that Mr A used his rep as a noted TR author to garner trust, but had nothing but swindle in mind.
Damn shame, hope it works out for mongo & the legit owner.

Mongo,- I hope this get sorted out in an honorable way as it seems you have come innocently into an unforeseen dispute.

Best regards,

Oh dear, I bought this item and paid cash for it in good faith. While I am not going to say publicly what I paid for it, I will say it was substantially more than the amounts discussed on the other thread.

So in short I never had ANY ideas there was any issues with the piece I was buying. If Chris and the seller have issues they need to get them sorted out.

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re was any issues with the piece I was buying. If Chris and the seller have issues they need to get them sorted out.

Well, I donno what laws says where you live, but in Norway all stolen items must be returned to owner, even when bought in good faith. By now you own stolen gods, if the allegations from originally owner is correct.

I feel for you mongo, but it looks like you may possibly be in it up to your neck.
If Mr Ainsby offered any sort of life time guarantee, I'd be insisting that he honor that, right this moment.

I'm not so sure we can go so far as to say its stolen, but it was certainly obtained fraudulently, and as of this moment, appears to be the property of the original owner in the states.

All I can say is that I am "very disturbed and distressed" to be in any way associated with this mess. The original seller sent me a mail overnight and this is the first thing I knew about it. Based on that I have contacted and spoken to the person I bought it from at length to try and ensure the situation is resolved ASA.

Mongobongo if Chris Ailsby refunds your money please do dont send it back to him, send it back to its origional owner in the USA, Looks like this is "THE END" for Chris Ailsby in the collecting community

Whatever the outcome it would seem that Mr Ailsby acted somewhat questionably in buying the piece for such a low price when he would have known full well it's true value, look we're all up for a bargain, but this reeks of cheating someone who had no knowledge of what he was selling, big mistakes all round here.

I have spoken today to both other parties to try and get some closure for this mess. I have offered to help in any practical way I can to help sort out a resolution. I paid "fair market value" for this piece so will be happy to provide any assistance I can to resolve matters.

I do hope now that all lines of communication are open so lets keep our fingers crossed.

what kind of future as this hobby got,if so called Reputable experts are pulling stunts like this !

Thanks for keeping us posted mongo, even though its directly none of our business, this kind of thing has an effect on us all.
When people shoot straight, nightmare situations like this don't develop.
This isn't the time or place to cast large stones, thats being covered pretty well on WAF, I hope things work out well for all parties [except the one who created this fiasco].

Not sure how Mongo sits legally with this, different countries have differing laws on stolen goods, I have heard of people in the UK unwittingly buying stolen goods and having had to return them to the original owner, on the other hand some years ago I was contacted by a finance firm regarding outstanding payment on a car I had purchased from a friend who had bought the car via a newspaper ad, the person posting the ad being the person who owed the money, however as the car had changed hands more than once I was allowed to keep it, though me and my friend payed the seller a little visit just to let him know that we weren't happy with him

Mongo, my advice is to ignore all advice you get from posters on message boards.