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HI I KNOW VERY LITTLE AND HAVE ABOUT 5 OF THESE I AM LOOKING TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM,THIS HAS ENGLAND STAMPED ON THE BROWN LEATHER SCABBARD,AND ENGLAND A NUMBER 4 AND AN ARROW ON THE CROSSGUARD,ALSO A RARITY AND VALUE WOULD BE GREAT.
DIPPY

NO2

NO3

Hi Matt, I know next to nothing on these but I do have a book . "Commando Dagger" The complete Illustrated History of The Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife by Leroy Thompson. It's published by Paladin
Press ISBN 0-87364-311-9. A quick look through the book but didn't see one exactly like yours. It does look like a third pattern. looking forward to more info on these.

thanks will try and get a copy,anyone else got any ideas
thanks dippy

there are a couple for sale on the COLLECTOR'S GUILD you can cross reference on

PAUL

thanks paul looks just like mine,strange twist that it came from canada
dippy

ACTUALLY they are both mine and where from vets here.

PAUL

its a perfect example of an early 3rd pattern f-s with a drop forge rather then machine made blade it was stamped england after the war and sent to the us as surplus to pay off war debts from the top nut i would say it was made by wilkinsons and is worth around $150

thanks nick top man
dippy

Orginals FS model 3 goes for more now. The prices are going up.
Model 3 sykes in orginal condition and drop forged blade cost from 150 and up . Normal cost for a minty early fs 3 with a nice sheat and forged blade will cost you 450 US.
All depends on markings and quality.

100 % top quality daggers is the best knifes to buy.

But bee aware ! many fake FS knifes out there .

Regards LH 600
FS collector

Here a FS First Pattern from my collection.
Used in Norway during the war by an Agent in Kompani Linge.
He was captured in february 45 and tortured to dead sorry...

Here his FS knife. ( Name on the back of sheat )

Hi LH 600, The FS 1st.Pattern is selling in England around $3350 or higher,depending on congition,nats

i see a lot of 1st patterns and the price is £800-1200 but beware wilkinson carried on making 1st patterns long after the war had finished in fact you could still order them as late as the 80`s all the post war knives seem to have been put together using war time parts so its impossible without providence to date them. also the figure of 1200 being made is wrong if the figure was corect there would not be so my around. i know of 8 for sale at the moment compare that to fat boy grip and private purchase nickel 2nd patterns! luckily there are no good fake f-s on the market

Hi nickn2, heres one that went for £1700 last week,nats
http://www.stan-the-man.tk/
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&it...=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012

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Originally posted by nickn2:
i see a lot of 1st patterns and the price is £800-1200 but beware wilkinson carried on making 1st patterns long after the war had finished in fact you could still order them as late as the 80`s all the post war knives seem to have been put together using war time parts so its impossible without providence to date them. also the figure of 1200 being made is wrong if the figure was corect there would not be so my around. i know of 8 for sale at the moment compare that to fat boy grip and private purchase nickel 2nd patterns! luckily there are no good fake f-s on the market

I now.
Im a FS collector myself and dont buy copies

All my daggers is real. The 1 st pattern you see are used in norway in the war.

i saw that 1st pattern on ebay from the scabbard i would say it was a post war knife
i go to all the uk arms fairs and see a lot of f-s knives 1st patterns fetch ,in the uk, £800-1200 ebay is not the place to get values all it needs is a mug bidder and the price rockets
i collect 2nd pattern f-s and have around 150 what i like about them is production proper stoped in 1942 all are hand made and slightly different and post war ,60`s onwards, versions are very easy to spot even wilkinson sword made ones do not have war time quality
there is a book coming out soon on the 1st pattern using wilkinsons records i think once it in generally know these knives were put together until quite recently the price will fall drastically
LUCKILY THERE ARE NO GOOD F-S COPIES

there is another feature on the ebay knife that points to it being post war but i will keep it to myself until the book comes out !

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Originally posted by nickn2:
there is another feature on the ebay knife that points to it being post war but i will keep it to myself until the book comes out !

Thats OK S....i have seen something myself

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there is a book coming out soon on the 1st pattern using wilkinsons records i think once it in generally know these knives were put together until quite recently the price will fall drastically
LUCKILY THERE ARE NO GOOD F-S COPIES

Is there a known author writing this book Nick ?
Can you tell us some more of the name of the author and when the book came out ?

Do you have some 1 pattern in your collection ? If so, i hope you will share some pics with us

LH 600

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Originally posted by nickn2:
there is another feature on the ebay knife that points to it being post war but i will keep it to myself until the book comes out !

Whay cant you tell your opinions here on the forum ??

Why do we need forum when you not wanna discuss ?

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Originally posted by nickn2:
i saw that 1st pattern on ebay from the scabbard i would say it was a post war knife

Opinions WHY ?

Hope you answering the post.

i have sent you an private message

Personally, I think if you know something you should share it with other collectors.
Thanks for the PM, but it was not very helpful.

i suggested you compared the known ww2 example to the other one the differences are very obvious how is that not being helpful???

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Originally posted by nickn2:
i suggested you compared the known ww2 example to the other one the differences are very obvious how is that not being helpful???

Thanks for E mail
I have sent you a new mail to.

two copy/aged 80`s wilkinson sword 2nd pattern f-s on ebay at the moment see if you can find them
especially zippox

What's with all the secrecy?

Hello Tim.

My observation is that collectors have learned not to give specific details on how they determine era and authenticity, etc..
The fact is that the shady sellers and forgers read these forums and adjust their daggers and knives using the information and make better and better forgeries and reproductions.

So you can get an expert informed opinion here but don't expect too much detail in some cases.

Jim

That does make sense, cheers for taking the time to explain it.