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SCHUMA Cloth Items fill a kind of mystical niche for me. They are just beautiful & artistic.

My limited understanding of the Schuma Organization, is that they were essentially Non-Germanic Members serving the Sipo/SD in occupied areas (outside of Germany). Primarily in the Baltics and Ukraine. (They filled the manpower void in these areas.) There were German Officers in the ultimate control - but did they wear SCHUMA Cloth? Don't know. The Cloth Items are nothing short of exquisite, with fine machine embroidery & colors. The SCHUMA Motto of "Faithfullness, Bravery & Obedience" is found on the Patches. I got lucky and found 2 sets of Shoulder Boards & 3 Patches. Txs, Dave / dblmed

SCHUMA Shoulder Boards .... Reverse

The Quality of the SCHUMA Patches is some of the best TR Cloth Items. Here are all 3 together.

SCHUMA EM Patch (If incorrect, please correct me Dave / dblmed

SCHUMA OFFICER Patch (If incorrect, please correct me Dave / dblmed

SCHUMA EM Patch - I believe I incorrectly labeled the NCO, as EM previously. (If incorrect, please correct me Dave / dblmed

I apologize for the 'too large' Images - as I am still fighting the PhotoShop battle. Image Kb size is not a problem, but the L X W Dimensions is a challenge.

(1) What size Images (L X W) do you find is the best for Posting & Viewing?

I'd imagine that SHUMA Uniforms are very Rare - as these locals didn't have anywhere to go ....as the Wehrmacht regrouped from previously held territories! Would be nice to see some SHUMA Uniforms... Txs, Dave / dblmed

Dave, the orange was for the Gendarmerie branch. I know a Ukrainian man that said he was around where the Shuma were being trained [ he was probably a member but still afraid to admit it]. He said things were moving so fast that no soon than the insignia was available,distributed,worn units were being dismantled and reorganized as other units.
I had showed him the OSPREY 'Partisan Warfare' book a few years ago. He said the only insig. he saw being worn for a short while were the green piped boards and the black and silver / grey arm patches. He mentioned it didn't matter if silver or gray, you got what they gave you.

I agree,they're beautiful insignia.,sometimes being very hard to collect. For me, a full badged up, original Shuma jacket is way rarer than a SS jacket...

Don't apologize, the photos are fine..Thanks for showing the pieces.....

Dave,

I agree with Gaspare that these are very nice insignia. Schuma guys wore a mixed bag of uniforms and insignia. Probably due to shortages as Gaspare says. Photos often show Schuma wearing no shoulder boards or mixed insignia within the same unit. One thing that I have noticed about Schuma shoulder boards is that they use the wide tongue like Heer boards instead of the narrow tongue like police boards. This would make them difficult to fit onto police tunics that had a narrow loop for the shoulder boards so this may help to explain the lack of boards in wear in photographs. Usually, photographs show them wearing standard SIPO or ORPO uniforms with Schuma insignia to distinguish them.

I think Gaspare is correct that orange and green were supposed to differentiate units in the police color scheme but I think that the grey sleeve insignia predominated toward the end of the war. I think their building-up outstripped the ability to supply them uniformly.

I hope this helps.

Dave, these are indeed very nice boards! Might i ask did you get them from a dealer or did you find them in the woodwork? I only ask because i hardly find any TR police item outside of dealers especially in Texas

Thanks Gaspare, OPRO & Legion for your updates .....

I do enjoy these beautiful Cloth pieces. (I think I even mispelled SCHUMA as SHUMA, so pardon for that.)

I bought the two sets of Boards from the 'Duck' Bill Shea a few years ago & got the 3 patches from other Dealers (? names) along the way, but haven't Posted them previously. I keep an eye out for Schuma cloth .... but they don't seem to come up too very often. So, when you see one you have to move on it - or it's gone! I've seen a smaller 'Cap Patch' which seems to be a smaller version of the Sleeve Patches, but haven't connected on one yet. Txs, Dave / dblmed

Dave, great insignia from another under appreciated organization. I only have a hat badge and 1 collar tab. thanks for showing them.

Reverse.

Raymond .....You have some Really Great Schuma Cloth Items + they are 2 of the examples that I don't have as - yet! (Maybe we need to merge up Collections?)

I've seen the Cap / Hat Eagle Patch - but the Collar Tabs are quite unusual to find. Good Going! I'm hoping that you or Doug will pull out a Schuma Uniform to Post!
Txs, Dave / dblmed

Dave, Here's some choice pieces to oogle!

http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1653059744...710058283#5710058283

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Gaspare ....C'est Manifique, N'est-ce pas? WOW - the Schuma Full Tunic & Cap that Pablo posted in 2005 is quite magnificent. (Great research in locating the Thread!).

The Schuma Uniform really nicely shows the Boards and Patches in place - with the addition of the DJ/HJ modified cap. Hopefully Pablo will join in and add his additional insight into Schuma? Txs, Dave / dblmed

Dave,

Here is my one and only Schuma tunic that I have had for a long time. It is a standard police field tunic with mouse grey Polizei collar litzen and a Schuma sleeve insignia all machine sewn on. It has no shoulder boards and the shoulder board buttons have been carefully removed. Of course it is impossible to tell when the sleeve insignia was sewn on. The lining is the same style as on Pablo's tunic.

The tunic is standard late police issue and the collar tabs are standard late police litzen.

The Schuma sleeve insignia is the "officer" style flatwire type and there does not seem to be the "ghost" of a regular police sleeve eagle. Of course, it is impossible to know when this insignia was sewn on as the tunic is probably unissued or only very lightly worn at best.

George

ORPO .....What an outstanding Schuma Uniform. Congrats!!! From looking at the 'machine sewn' Schuma Sleeve Patch & the nice condition of the Uniform - I'd guess that the Uniform was kitted out in a large supply depot area - not in the field for sure! That one is a keeper.

Only by chance, I just acquired 2 Schuma Officers Collar Tabs. The Collar tabs are attributed to the Ukrainian Schuma.
This would be for the rank of Brigadefuhrer or Major. These are both for the left collar - so maybe someone has the 2 right Collar Tabs. Txs, Dave / dblmed

FRONT of Brigadefuhrer Schuma Tabs......

Posted for a fellow Schuma Collector, Tom Pearcy

"I have a pair of Orange Piped Police Green Boards with Orange Swastikas.
& the Orange Gendarmerie Schuma Sleeve Patch

The Orange are a tad bit longer then my Green Piped Black Boards,
& the Green Schuma (Police) Sleeve Patch.

Could be for an Overcoat or for larger size tunic?"

(Isn’t the Orange contrasting color just a Fantastic Combination?)
Txs, Dave/dblmed)

FRONT of Tom's Shoulder Tabs & Sleeve Patches

Posted for Tom Pearcy #2

REVERSE of the Above Items

Some SCHUMA BACKGROUND: With the invasion of Russia on June 22ND 1941 the German army quickly occupied large tracts of territory resulting in ever extending rear areas that required policing to maintain order amongst the population and to secure open transportation and communication lines to the front.

Originally the army had established small auxiliary police units for these purposes which were followed by SS action groups.

The territories occupied proved to be too large for these small auxiliary units to police effectively which resulted in recruitment of local anti-Communist personnel which were formed into Schuma, short for Schutzmannschaften, (Protection Troops), units in November 1941.

The Schuma personnel fell under the control of the regional Höhere SS und Polizeiführer, (Higher SS and Police Leader). These Schuma personnel wore a wide variety of uniforms, headgear and insignia including surplus black Allgemeine-SS uniforms, and assorted field-grey and police green items.

In June 1942 distinctive cap and sleeves emblems were introduced for Schuma personnel to distinguish them from Ordnungspolizei, (Order Police), personnel.

Text is Courtesy of: http://www.Germanmilitaria.com

You Advanced guys may be aware of All of this, but the Date of implementation of Schuma 'Cloth' was new info. for me.
Txs, Dave/dblmed

GREEN BORDERED COLLAR TABS

Schuma Collar Tabs (?)

Here is a set of purported to be Schuma Collar Tabs, which I incidentally missed out on getting - on Manions - about 2 years back.

I doubted them at that time - BUT from all that I have read & learned since,the Schuma guys had to scrounge for their Uniforms & Equipment. (Often, it was a mis match of Cloth).

So...... these could have been 'field made' - for Schuma .... using the 2 Cap Schuma Patches and other Collar Tabs, bordered in Police Green. (Theory seems OK.... but.....)

Have Any of you advanced Schuma collectors ever seen these types of Tabs?

Txs, Dave/dblmed

Dave,

Nice insignia you posted.

I think you did well to "miss" buying the last set of collar tabs. I believe they are fake fantasy tabs made from fake cap insignia. I suspect these are from the same source as the fantasy Police Panzer collar tabs of the same style with Pz skulls in the center. I saw a set of these sell on Manions for good money but I would not give a thin dime for a set. I have never seen a period photo of anything like these in wear and they are certainly not regulation collar tabs.

Thanks ORPO......

I will defer to your Keen Eyes & Depth of Experience on these types of items. Thanks for the assessment. Dave/dblmed

I got Lucky and found this really ‘Bright RED’ Machine Embroidered SCHUMA Sleeve Emblem.

(Other Schuma Sleeve Emblems seem to be BeVo, so I don't know if this RED is a recognized variant? It is on 'Police Green' Wool)

(This RED is really a brighter shade than a usual Fire Eagle. You could see him coming from a mile away!)

I Also picked up a nice Schutzmannschaften / Schuma ‘Dog Tag’ to accompany it.

FRONT ……..Txs, Dave/dblmed

REVERSE ……..Txs, Dave/dblmed

(I'll make them Smaller next time!!!)

I found this SCHUMA uniform assemblage on a Russian site.

From http://ukr-ww2.onestop.net/schuma.html Dave/dblmed

Another GREAT Schuma Uniform from this site....

The man on the FAR Right...

Notice he is wearing a TENO (Technische Nothilfe) Hewer? Strange, but Oh so interesting. ......Dave/dblmed

Also shown was a Schuma Cap with the BLACK Smaller Schuma patch on it. Dave/dblmed

Some more great Schuma history, for those of us who have forgotten it.

SD, AND POLICE / SCHUMA BATTALIONS
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With the appointment of SS General von dem Bach-Zelewski as Coordinator of Anti-Partizan in the East, a variety of security formations were beginning to emerge.

As early as 1941, these security formations were beginning to be diluted with Baltic and Ukrainian recruits. These units were supervised by the SS Police and SD/SS Security Staff. In Ukraine and the Baltic provinces all these scattered units were formed into an auxiliary police force known as the Schuetzmannschaft Ordungspolizei (Schuma). The units were either divided into Front or Guard Units. Although the SS and Police operated within Army-administered areas, the Army had its own security formations, known as Security Divisions.

When the Germans split up and conquered Poland in 1939. Large areas were incorporated directly into the Reich, while other lands inocrporated into Reichskommissariats of Ostland (Baltic States and Belarus) and Ukaraine. The repressive german policy towards the Poles led to creation of Ukrainian-Galician police force for the Galicia District. Twelve Schuma Battalions were organized: 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212.

With the rize of partizan warfare, the main duties of such Schuma battalions were to seek out and destroy the Soviet Partizans. Each battalion had a staff and four 124 man companies, each with one machine gun platoon and three infantry platoons; totalling 700 man. The battalions varied from Frontline, Guard, Engineer, Construction and Replacement Battalions deployed along the Army Group Rear Areas. The SD also included Schuma forces (Schuetzmannschaft der Sicherheitspolizei). A number of home guard organisations (SB - Sluzhba Bezpeky / Selbstschuetz) were also created.

Ukrainians joined the German-sponsored forces in large numbers, and in late 1942, 70,000 were in the Schuma, becoming one of the largest Schuma forces. About 35,00 served in 71 Schuma Batallions: 51, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 61, 62, 63, 101, 111, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 129, 130, 131, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 143 to 169. These battalions included some Cossack, cavalry and artillery units. Home Guards were disignated as the Ukrainian National Self-Defence Force (UNS) and had up to 180,000 man. When in 1944 the Red Army overrun Ukraine, these units were transfered to Ukrainian Self-Defence Legion and others had joined the 14th and 30th divisions of Waffen SS.
From http://ukr-ww2.onestop.net/schuma.html Dave/dblmed

SCHUMA UNIFORMS - 1941 & 1942 & 1943+

It is very interesting to see the MARKED Schuma Uniform Transition from:

1941 - 'Red Army' Uniform Like in 1941,
1942 - to a 'Mixed Czarist Partisan' Look in 1942,
1943 + to the 'Germanic' familiar SCHUMA Uniform of 1943+

Courtesy the Russian Book by Partizany & Karateli (in Russian)
Txs, Dave/dblmed

Dave,

These are copies of the plates in the Osprey series of books. Do not take them too literally as they are simply artist drawings. I wonder if the Russian authors paid a royalty for use of these pictures and text or simply reprinted them?

ORPO ...Thanks, I knew that I'd seen the Color Plate with the numbered 'Uniform' Items somewhere before, but couldn't place it. (Then it shows up with Cyrillic writing? Go figure...)

Yes, Schuma 'Uniforms' seem to be a mixed bag of whatever cloth 'was available' or 'was leftover' for the use of the Eastern units. I've read that even some stripped Allgemeine SS Uniforms we shipped to the Baltics / Schuma units. I guess the only real 'solid' evidence is period Photos. Txs, Dave/dblmed

Dave,

The black tunics and greatcoats were surplus Allg.-SS uniforms that were altered by putting the green collar and cuffs on them. Most of the green uniforms were standard police issue with Schuma insignia. There was also a healthy mix of captured and adapted uniforms for Eastern Volunteers.

This stuff is not for the faint of heart collector.

Here are a couple of pictures from a magazine called Militaria volume 1 # 1 in 1969

#2

#3

Last is my set of 5 uncut ones Paul

Vigs 48 ...... More GREAT Information on the Schuma! (and from 1969 to boot!)

Some of those same Photos are used on the Russian site that I referenced.

Your 5 uncut light Green Schuma's are incredible! That Color is a very hard one to find even one example of, and you have 5! Good Going Paul... Dave/dblmed

DaveJ (WAF) has a very nice cross sectional Schuma Cloth Collection of Patches, Shoulder Boards & a Collar Tab. He has allowed me to Post them here, and to share these Items with us.

From DaveJ Collection ............. Txs, Dave/dblmed

A very Nice BLACK Schuma Bullion Sleeve Patch.

From DaveJ Collection ............. Txs, Dave/dblmed

FRONT

Backside of the very Nice BLACK Schuma Bullion Sleeve Patch.

Shows a fine 'zig zag' stitching around the borders.

From DaveJ Collection ............. Txs, Dave/dblmed

REVERSE

Schuma OFFICER'S Boards - 2 Variations-TOPS

With the help of a friend (HK), and his keen eyes, I have
been able to match up my mis-matched Schuma OFFICER'S Boards.
They look pretty much the same on the top side - but -.
...... Txs, Dave/dblmed

Schuma OFFICER'S Boards - 2 Variations-REVERSE

(The shiney Bullion didn't show up well in the above Photos, but it's there.)

But on the reverse, we see that they have 2 different types of fabric used.
So the Boards must have been made by different makers, or at different times.
Interesting variations. Txs ...... Dave/dblmed

RED / CARMINE Schuma Boards-TOPS

Maybe this red is really Carmine? Looks pretty red though to me. I found 2 Red / Carmine sleeve patches which seem to match up with them, 1 used and 1 unissued. Txsm Dave/dblmed

RED? / CARMINE Schuma Boards-REVERSE

Reverse... Txs, Dave/dblmed

Green Schuma Boards w White Swastika-TOP

Green Schuma Boards w White Swastika - I have found these in 2 variations also (so probably there are even more variants!) TOP side. Txs, ....Txs, Dave/dblmed

Green Schuma Boards w White Swastika-REVERSE

Green Schuma Boards w White Swastika - Flip them over, and 2 different fabric types are seen again. Txs, ....Dave/dblmed

Green Schuma Boards w Light Green Swastika-TOP

Green Schuma Boards w Light Green Swastika (Like in the roll of 5 which VIGS showed us), I knew existed from the prior posting.

But the MEDIUM - DARK GREEN sleeve patch is a new one to me. I have seen the lighter green (Lime Green) Schuma patch, but Not a Dark Green SCHUPO colored patch. Has anyone seen this one before?

Why would the Schuma use Light Green and also Dark Green?
(But, then again,

• the Schuma used a Lighter Green Piped Shoulder Boards with WHITE Thread Swastika,
• and
• they used a MED - DARK Green Piped Shoulder Boards with GREEN Thread Swastika

So, there must be a 'logical' reason for the 2 Green colors. Txs,Dave/dblmed
Attached Images

Green Schuma Boards w Light Green Swastika-REVERSE

Reverse... Txs, Dave/dblmed

MEDIUM - DARK Green Schuma Sleeve Patch

This patch is a beauty - and it really is a Medium to Dark Green -
NOT the Lime Green, which I have seen previously (and as is shown in VIGS Post)! Txs, Dave/dblmed

Fantastic pieces Dave! Where did you pick up the pink and green boards? Was this a recent find?

P.S. My only set of em Schuma boards are actually missmatched and show two variations as well - one has a black velvety material (like most of them), the other is made from course black cotton like material (some times we find late ss tabs made from such material).

Askold, I picked up the pink and the green Swastika boards recently from a friend who is kindly a 'Schuma and TeNo' hunter for me at mid west shows. Item from both organizations are to be found, but it takes a lot of hunting... and some good luck along the way.

Schuma Boards backing materials (flaps) - from looking at a number of Shoulder Boards, I believe that there are at least 3 variations:

Co**** Black (cotton like material)

Light (satin like material)

Medium-Dark (also satin like material)

Perhaps the variations are due to different makers, or having been made at different times?

... Txs, Dave/dblmed

What a great find! I managed to get one silver and one orange board some time ago and still hoping to find green and pink ones.

Middle Green & Lime Green Schuma Patches

I just got in 2 Lime Green Schuma Patches (after a loooong search for one!)

When I compared them to the Middle Green Schuma patch shown previously, I was struck by some notable differences!

The Middle Green Schuma patch is
• Definitely smaller than the 'standard' size Lime Green (& Orange & others)
• Is Round, where the others are the 'standard' Oval shape

It came out of a long term Schuma collection, so that is a bit of comfort;
The construction is identical - material & stitching - also comforting;
I haven't seen another like it (although other Collectors may have)
In hand inspection, it looks right and feels right...

But, I don't know it's purpose in the Schuma scheme of things?

We do see the 2 variations of Green Schuma Shoulder Boards - so, perhaps this may account for the Middle Green Schuma patch? ...Txs, Dave/dblmed

Reverse

Very interesting comparison of the Schuma patches Dave. I believe that it could be just a variation or the smaller one could be a try out set that got produced and later replaced by the standard oval ones. If you nottice there is also variation in the boards as well. Some are more longer, while others are shorter and more pointier. I suspect that the longer boards were meant for overcoats. Here is two of my boards:

Just wanted to add few immages to this great thread:

A Soldbuch for Ukrainia Schutzmanshaft:



Sometimes not every unit would wear typical Schuma uniforms. Here is major from one of Ukrainian battalions. He is wearing WH? boards, trident cockades and old Ukrainian republic medal bar.



Ukrainians and Germans at Zarig Schuma outpost:


Belarussian schuma members. Note a rare black M-43 cap:


Winter headgear variation:


Ukrainian schuma wearing captured British ? pot helmets:


Lithuanian schuma, police and TLR members:

My mistake, the captured helmet is not British but Dutch M-18

Few more interesting pics:

Ukrainian shuma (foto from the net). Note the Allgemeine side cap - the eagle is continued to be worn, but the skull button appears to be replaced with regular button.


Belorussian shuma from Bobrujsk, instead of swastika wreatsh they are wearing standard police cap insignia:


Belorussian shuma funeral in Minsk. Note the use of captured Soviet Sh-36 helmets:


Schuma graduates from Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia attend a trip/conf erence in Germany:

ASKOLD ... Many Thanks(!) Amazing Photos...

Your Photos are some of the most interesting (and certainly amongst the rarest!) period Photos of the Schuma / Schutzmannschaften men.

The diversity of uniform types & the "mix-&-match" of caps, visors, collar tabs, shoulder boards & sleeve patches - seems to show that the Schuma were outfitted with 'whatever' was locally availale!

So many of the Schuma are wearing the Allegemine SS Black uniforms - with altered collars, pocket flaps and sleeve cuffs! (Some authors show the alterations as a type of "Police Green" usually, but other colors seem to have been used - again, probably due to availability of suitable cloth.)
Just such a Schuma uniform is now for sale on the estand at WAF, and has been discussed.)

Askold, your WebSite www.galiciadivision.com is Exceptional(!)

It has phenomenal wealth of knowledge / Photos on the Schuma, and on SS Galacia and other Ukrainian formations. A GREAT Historical site! Thanks for taking the time to create it, and to then keep it updated.

Thanks for adding a great deal to the knowledge base regarding the Schuma! You need to write a book about the Ukrainian formations! - (both in English & in Ukrainian!) ... Txs, Dave/dblmed

Here's the English lang. version

http://ssgalicia.onestop.net/main.html


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I would also add something - here are two ID tags (KM size) and "cross" found with one them by my colleague.

Jan

Gaspare - Yes, the English section is a bit easier to read, than the Ukrainian. BUT, there are great PHOTOS throughout the Site, so checking it ALL out, is very informative.

Jan - what fascinating Schuma ID Tags & the 'SS EK' made to be worn around the neck. Schuma items seem to turn up the unexpected. Txs, Dave/dblmed

Dave:

All I can say is thank you for the compliments! Here is one more photo from my collection - early Belarussian Shuma. No special collars or cuffs or any insignia were ever worn.

I have a bunch items ,mostly gifts, from my travels to East Europe.. Here's a pair of boards and arm patch..

Although not really Schuma, but still very interesting photo to add to the foreign police volunteers thread. Ukrainian police band from General Gouvernment. Note the "swallows nests"! The guy in the middle is also wearing Petliura Cross - an award issued to Ukrainian vets who fought against the Russians in 1918. All other orchestra members are also wearing their police badges.

Simon Petliura Cross

Excellent stuff!

Thanks Askold,

More wonderful Schuma and Ukrainian Information and Items!

Seeing the Ukrainian "Trident" on the Simon Petliura Cross (which I was previously not aware of!) is fascinating - as this "Trident" symbol must have a long history of use. ...Txs, Dave/dblmed

Thanks guys! One more pic I came across:

Askold - Keep those Schuma photos & other Schuma items coming in! Super.

I just got in a photo of 2 Schuma men. No writing on the back. Seller states that they are "Ukranian" Schuma from an album. I can't tell?

The Photo Shows, IMO:

• the Schuma LT. sleeve patch (it is 'shiney' so perhaps that will narrow down the possible types.)
• Im Dienst Der Deutschen Polizei arm bands - NICE!
• Uniforms (& Schuma wore just about anything!) that look a bit like LUFT Tunics to me.
(BUT... I am no authority on these.) One tunic has a flap pocket.
• Probable Polizei Type Collar Tabs (Patches)
• Unknown Shoulder Boards - too narrow for typical Schuma + no Swastika seen on them.
• 2 different styles and sizes of leather belts.

You may see other things that I missed! ...Txs, Dave/dblmed

Gaspare! ...Keep bringing back MORE of those really great items from your trips to the East!

Plus, you may come across some Schuma Photos or Schuma Paper Items - it went 'underground' but there must be a lot which is still out there! Txs, Dave/dblmed

Discussion of the Above Photo

Discussion of the Above Photo is best summed up as: "It seems to be [Schuma, used as] Luftschutzpolizei men, due to Fliegerblouses & special LSW/SHD [narrow] shoulder boards... by our friends, lbsr & Keith (www.hmsbrinmaric)." The Narrow Shoulder Boards would have been a Dark Green.

Some LUFT Collectors have the opinion that perhaps Type 1 and Type 2 Luft Fliegerblouses are seen - i.e. the apparent absence of a pocket on the Schuma man on the Left. Perhaps, the case.

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The Many Colors of the Schuma The different Colors of the Schuma Sleeve Patches and Shoulder Boards remains an 'unknown' as no period Regs. or Documents have surfaced (Yet!). Perhaps Keith or Askold (or others) may have
OFF-SB-2: Silver Piping & Silver Thread Swastika on Black Shoulder Boards = Officer.

Officer - Schuma Sleeve Patches:
OFF-SL-1: Silver Wire Thread - on Black Center/Background Sleeve Patch = Officer
OFF-SL-2: All Silver Wire Thread Sleeve Patch – on Green Background = Officer
OFF-SL-3: Silver Bullion Patch – on Black Background = Officer

EM/NCO - Shoulder BOARDS:
OFF-SB-1: Green Piping & White Thread Swastika on Black Shoulder Boards
OFF-SB-2: Green Piping & Green Swastika on Green Shoulder Boards
OFF-SB-3: Reddish/Carmine Piping & Reddish/Carmine Swastika on Green Shoulder Boards
OFF-SB-4: Orange Piping w Orange Swastika on Green Shoulder Boards

EM/NCO - Schuma Sleeve Patches:
E/N-SL-1: All Greenish Thread w a Black Center & Background - on Green Background
E/N-SL-2: All Lime Green Thread - on Green Background
E/N-SL-3: All Medium Green Thread, as Circle not Oval – on Green Background
...............(so far, this is a 1 of, so I am a bit uncertain, but seems Legit.)
E/N-SL-4: All Orange (Bright!) Thread - on Green Background
E/N-SL-5: Redish/Carmine Thread - on Green Background

Field Cap / Side Cap Patches:
OFF F/SC: Silver Wire on Black = Officer (there is Photo proof & collector's examples)
E/N F/SC: White / Grey-White on Black = EM/NCO (there is Photo proof & collector's examples)

(***) AND, there may well be other colors, Yet to be seen – in other Collections!

Meanings of Schuma Color Combinations – for Boards & Patches:

It is 'believed' but is not proven / documented (to my knowledge), that the Schuma used the standard Polizei color scheme, such that:

(A) Orange = Schuma Gendarmerie-type functions

(B) Reddish / Carmine = Schuma Fire / Feurschutz-type functions
(Part of the basis for this Assumption is from: "In November 1941 Daluege issued a more detailed set of regulations. He identified the non-German urban and rural patrolmen (Einzeldienst) as well as all non-German firemen as part of the Schutzmannschaft. With respect to these changes, the Schutzmannschaft was largely a new term for older offices and functions, with the difference that all Schutzmannschaft men were clearly subordinated to German police authorities.
There were also auxiliary Schutzmannschaft men who served on work details and
carried out guard duties for the German police or the military." Link is Below

(C) •'the' MANY SCHUMA Greens – Boards & Patches = Different Polizei types of functions – still Unknown, but could well have differentiated between some of the following:

(IMO, Various "Green & Other Color Combination" Schuma 'Boards & Patches' would have been needed (IMO) - (to ID / Differentiate specific Units) since the Schuma / Schutzmannschaften duties / activities were so widely varied, and included:

* General Policing of the Occupied Areas;
* Luftschutz Activities;
* Anti-Partisan Fighting;
* Staffing of KLagers in Occupied Areas;
* Guarding POW's;
* Extermination of Jews & Other Groups;
* Labor Groups;
* Front line fighting against the Russians;
* and probably many other activities.

If you wish to learn MORE about the Schuma, this is a Super Link - SCHUMA Link:
http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp....MVIuG&b=395183

It has more DOCUMENTED Schuma information, than I've found elsewhere.
Hopefully, this Information is helpful. …. Txs, Dave/dblmed

Schuma Officer's Field Cap-1

I acquired this Field Cap just recently, and it was 'Vetted' out OK, by the boys of the ForumS.

I'm very excited about it - since it's Schuma (#1) & for an Officer (#2)! ......... Txs, ...Dave/dblmed

Schuma Officer's Field Cap-Front Right....

Schuma Officer's Field Cap-2

Schuma Officer's Field Cap-Front

Schuma Officer's Field Cap-3

Schuma Officer's Field Cap-4

Schuma Officer's Field Cap Interior ....... Txs, Dave/dblmed

SUPER Schuma EM/NCO Side Cap w Police Green Piping.

KEITH ( www.hmsbrinmaric) WAF posted his SUPER Schuma EM/NCO w the Police Green Center Piping present. A super Schuma EM Side Cap. Txs to Keith.

Schuma M43 Cap

KEITH ( www.hmsbrinmaric) WAF has also posted his Really NICE Schuma M43. It has a neat Bluish tint to the cloth, plus it is in great shape. It's a Super Looker! Txs to Keith.

Schuma Mann wearing an SS Insignia M43 Cap.
(Photo is Courtesy of my friend, Wotan)

It seems that the Schuma wore whatever Uniform combinations were made available to them.

Supply & Distribution of Items to the Schuma appears to have been a significant challenge.
Since the Schuma was subordinate to the SS & Polizei, unusual Uniform combinations seem to be 'routine!' ...Txs, Dave / dblmed