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The Bayonet on the left is stamped CARL WuSTHOF SOLIGEN. The stag plate attached to the grip is brass. The Bayonet on the right is stamped E.u.F.HORSTER SOLIGEN. The stag plate attached to the grip is lettered ORTELSBURG OSTPR and is also brass. I have had the bayonet on the right about 18 years and the one on the left showed up for sale this past week. They look great in a stag bayonet collection. They are both well used. I would like to know what the knot represents. That might be a help.

Photograph #2
Thanks for looking.
Sincerely,
HUBERTUS

Hubertus

Knot what knot I don't see anything but two great bayonets. I'm lost for words, you have some of the rarest bayonets I have ever seen. In fact if you hadn't posted pictures most of us would have never gotten to see these.

TKissinger

Picture # 3.
Knot and trade mark of bayonet on the right.

Ralph,
Superb examples!!
I'm intrigued by the grips of the Carl Wusthof example. From your picture, it appears that the stag partially covers the crossguard. Would it be possible to see more detailed closeups and perhaps a view from the spine side? It almost appears the blade would not fully seat in the scabbard.
I'm sure others here will be able to provide info on the knot. I'm knot sure, but I think I'm knot a knot guy.
Best Regards

Denny—It would seem that whoever did the grip work was inspired to add the extra attention to the overhang part of the grip and they had an eye for the part of the horn that grew out of the head of the stag and took some time to fit it as carefully as it came out. It is a tight fit as you can see from the photos. A little extra pizzazz.

Grip photograph #2

Edelweiss attached to grip.

The knot seems to be the "mounted type" for cavalry EM etc. because of the lack of a stem-- but it has a cloth strap which is unusual. I don't recall ever seeing one like it. These stag grip bayonets are of course unofficial and it is difficult to tell when the personal modifications were made but they certainly look old. If period, IMO they would not be military but something worn by a mountain guide or something of that nature. I don't recall seeing any others. The Austrian one strikes me as a bit different-something worn for dress by a mountain trooper--or since it is the flower of Austria-it could just be that and nothing more-- something personalized and worn by any Austrian soldier. However, it does look like the flower may be aluminum-if so IMO it would not "fit" with the right period for this bayonet.

Hubertus,

Two very nice looking stag grip KS98. The crown stag grip plate that is fitted over the guard is outstanding.

I have never seen a knot quite like this before either. It is made in the form of a Faustriemen but it has a sewn green cloth strap. If your knot had the normal green leather strap it would be regulation for an enlisted rank soldier who was assigned to Regimental Staff duties. This would be for mounted troops, artillery, or truck/tank born troops. I suspect this is an original non-military knot related to hunting or forestry or mountaineering. It seems that it could certainly be correct for this bayonet. Did it come with the bayonet?

George

What a wonderful example!
This is surely a "one of a kind".