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Reverse is PIC Solingen Germany.
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Hi Ruski you are right m6 is for aluminium products
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Obverse is stamped with a number.
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This one is from Hubertus. I understand that this company made scout knives before, and after the period, but they did not make HJ knives as we know them. I'm not aware of any RZM number for the company. After the war, I believe they were taken over by EuF Horster. Hubertus is now part of Kuno Ritter GmbH & Co KG, and the Hubertus mark is still in use today.
Fishers reference 2003 Edition has this to say about Hubertus:
"No NS daggers or knives were made or sold by Kuno Ritter under the Brand name Hubertus. Hitler Youth knives have been modified by an unknown third party after production, by replacing the fleur-de-lys diamond shaped insert with the Hitler Youth swastika insignia. These falsified knives have been fooling dealers and collectors alike since before 1984"
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The PIC company and its TM began appearing on knives in the late 1950s. They initially made a set of three throwing knives in a leather sheath, all with the PIC TM on the blade and the grips were painted red, blue and green. The grip was part of the blade and just an extension of the steel with paint, although narrower and flat. These were SA Dagger blades, reground and slightly shorter with the grip and narrow with no motto trace left.
They also produced an HJ style knive with a 1/2 red and 1/2 with diamond of painted metal in the grip. These appeared at the same time as the throwing knives. All surplus material from left overs in Germany and all stamped with Germany on ths scabbards.
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This is a good example from a fellow forum member, marked SM/1940.
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There's an SM/1940 on ebay now, great condition. Will be interesting to see what it goes for. Six days left to run...currently at $46 after 7 bids... It has 'Germany' stamped into the upper obverse of the scabbard, as Ron has said about the PIC. http://cgi.ebay.com/GERMAN-1940-TRENCH-KNIFE-MARKED-MIN...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemRegards Russell
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Waiting on a diamond pic to arrive. Anyone else got any more pics or info on replicas, fakes, postwar produced knives?? Mike is dealing with the missing 'diamond' pics from the hosting site that is too 'pc'  . Thanks Seany for the M6 confirmation. Regards Russell
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This thread should have a disclaimer for the visitors!! There is too much junk on it haha. My eyes hurt!! especially the one in post 11 and 12! I havent seen anything worst than that!
Great job posting the pics guys.
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This one is just marked 'Solingen' on the obverse ricasso.
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Very pronounced seam at the finger guard, running up between the grip plates.
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Last one - rivet and plate. You can see how high the seam runs up the hilt.
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ok, I have a Chinese special here.
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Here's another with markings that are complete fantasy.
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Another M7/2 1937.
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A different version of a Klaas being offered on ebay. Five pics to follow.
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Great research for HJ-fakes, Russell !
This is a very valuable topic!
Best greetings,
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You never have enough HJ-knifes!
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Thanks Herman, I hope collectors will find it useful, and I'm thankful to Paul Horton for posting the question in the first instance.
Here's another interesting one that looks to be paired with an original scabbard.
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Obverse grip and diamond.
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Last one, and this is the most interesting part - a waffen stamp to the ricasso.
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look at the off stamping on the last pic,,,1746 .way off.and i have 3 of the rzm copys for display reasons.they sell here at a local flea mkt dealer for $11.00 each.
o hello dare.lol.
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this is mine.the real deal.the hot stamping is horizontal not vertical .and not off center or rushed stamped like the china copys.
o hello dare.lol.
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Another one found on ebay - the maker is RZM M7/38, and the rear is marked Germany. Six pics to follow.
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